Re: Mixed page volume sizes

2010-09-30 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
07 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Mixed page volume sizes S if you had guests averaging 18GB each, and you follow recommendations for page volume utilization (50% as I understand it), Mod 9s would yield around 4GB useable page space each. That would give you 100 such imag

Re: Mixed page volume sizes

2010-09-30 Thread Gary M. Dennis
S if you had guests averaging 18GB each, and you follow recommendations for page volume utilization (50% as I understand it), Mod 9s would yield around 4GB useable page space each. That would give you 100 such images per VM .. (250 volumes times the 4GB/volume divided by 18GB per image

Re: Mixed page volume sizes

2010-09-30 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
"Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas any more" Rob van der Heij Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 09/30/2010 10:24 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Mixed page volume sizes On Thu, Sep 30, 201

Re: Mixed page volume sizes

2010-09-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:39 PM, George Henke/NYLIC wrote: > > Sorry for my ignorance and naivete, but I am simply staggered at the volume > of page volumes of whatever size, 100 - 240. > > I have just a Dev Test z/VM environment with 2 measly 3390-3's for Paging. > > Granted, I am running only 5

Re: Mixed page volume sizes

2010-09-30 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
ave to run that needs 240 page volumes? I am sure it is justified, I would just like to know more about the workload. Mark Wheeler Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 09/30/2010 09:00 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Mixed pa

Re: Mixed page volume sizes

2010-09-30 Thread Mark Wheeler
en?" Tom Peters, author of "The Little BIG Things" > Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:53:25 -0700 > From: dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com > Subject: Mixed page volume sizes > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > On of our z/VM 5.4.0 systems is about to grow to 140 GB

Re: Mixed page volume sizes

2010-09-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Martin Zimelis wrote: >   And record one more vote that mixed sizes is a very bad idea (for > the reasons Rob described). But "your very bad may vary" ;-) For anyone still awake, ponder on this one... "Rob, we just put in 30 volumes 3390-9 for paging. After th

Re: Mixed page volume sizes

2010-09-30 Thread Martin Zimelis
Dennis, I would add one more thing to what Rob said. Your paging rate should also be taken into account. If 100 "spindles" will handle your peak paging rates without causing measurable page wait, I'd vote for going the all-3390-9 route rather than the -3 approach. And record one more vote

Re: Mixed page volume sizes

2010-09-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:53 AM, O'Brien, Dennis L wrote: [ snip ] need them, so if I add another 32 GB of storage, my choice would be something like 212 3390-3's and 28 3390-9's, or 100 3390-9's.  Which would be a better choice? As you indicated, z/VM spreads paging effectively to fill volumes

Re: Mixed page volume sizes

2010-09-29 Thread Kris Buelens
CP will page out to the disk with the best performance, so yes, the mdl3's may be filled too much when mixing sizes. 2010/9/30 O'Brien, Dennis L > > On of our z/VM 5.4.0 systems is about to grow to 140 GB of storage. Given > our target overcommit ratio of 3:1, and IBM's advice to keep paging sp

Mixed page volume sizes

2010-09-29 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
On of our z/VM 5.4.0 systems is about to grow to 140 GB of storage. Given our target overcommit ratio of 3:1, and IBM's advice to keep paging space no more than 50% full, this should just about fit onto 240 or 248 3390-3 sized volumes. My question is what will happen the next time we add stora