Re: New z9 models

n Ackerman Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 10:17 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: New z9 models Their web site is even <http://selectbs.com/>. But they were recently bought by Avantcé Software -- so I don't know how long that web site will last. On Mon, 1 May 2006 11:40:08 -050

Re: New z9 models

Their web site is even . But they were recently bo ught by Avantcé Software -- so I don't know how long that web site will last. On Mon, 1 May 2006 11:40:08 -0500, Mike Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w rote: >And then there's the latest name of the ISV providing Nomad2... "Sel

Re: New z9 models

o:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "JimElliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"@D01AV01.POK.IBM.COM Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 5:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject:Re: New z9 models (I think the marketing people are going to sore

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"Squirrel" is another possibility. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:00 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: New

Re: New z9 models

[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 10:40 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] New z9 models On Monday, 05/01/2006 at 10:32 MST, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They seldom do consider the other meanings or pronunciat

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On Monday, 05/01/2006 at 10:32 MST, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They seldom do consider the other meanings or pronunciations of acronyms when > assigning names. Some IBMers have gotten a good laugh at what we did with > DFSMS. Our pronunciation said it all - Doofus Mess. No

Re: New z9 models

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "JimElliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"@D01AV01.POK.IBM.COM Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 5:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: New z9 models > (I think the marketing people are go

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ions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. "JimElliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]/              <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 04/30/2006 07:21 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LIST

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On May 1, 2006, at 7:48 AM, Rob van der Heij wrote: Haha... they should always check with Sir Neale for comments. I remember when we were trying to come up with names for knights, most of them were disapproved by Neale as having a naughty double meaning back in Oz :-) But EVERYTHING has a naugh

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A similar situation with the U.S. Air Force's fleet of B-52 bombersall the planes are now older than the crews that fly them DJ "JimElliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"@D01AV01.POK.IBM.COM wrote: (I think the marketing people are going to sorely regret this new naming conv

Re: New z9 models

ating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Neale Ferguson >> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:47 AM >> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> Subject: Re: New z9 models >> >> That reminds me of when the RS/6000 was announced. Those of us >> "downunder"

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On 5/1/06, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Also, when we pointed out to TPTB that Global Business Services (the new name for Business Consulting Services) had another homourous meaning (i.e. Global BS) they were shocked and had never even thought of the secondary meaning! Haha... they should always check

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That reminds me of when the RS/6000 was announced. Those of us "downunder" were very amused as RS is to BS except that a Rat is involved! Mind you us mainframe bigots thought it entirely appropriate. -Original Message- Also, when we pointed out to TPTB that Global Business Services (the ne

Re: New z9 models

> (I think the marketing people are going to sorely regret this > new naming convention. It's just got too many comedy > possibilities. ) David: Given that no one in System z marketing is even old enough to remember BC mode (i.e. S/360) and EC mode (i.e. S/370)... Also, when we pointed out to TP

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I started reading that article but fell asleep about the third paragraph. I now keep it in case I suffer from insomnia. What was the author smoking? :-) -Original Message- Neale Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >zArchitecture has PACKA and UNPKA opcodes to pack and unpack decimal. Fo

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Neale Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >zArchitecture has PACKA and UNPKA opcodes to pack and unpack decimal. For the record: that's "z/Architecture". The architecture is considered software, hence gets the "z". Cf. z/VM, z/OS, z/VSE, but z900, z890, z9, et al. See current issue of z/Journa

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On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 10:03:36AM -0400, Neale Ferguson wrote: > zArchitecture has PACKA and UNPKA opcodes to pack and unpack decimal. Apart > from CVB/CVD ED/EDMK I don't think there's anything that ties zArchitecture > to EBCDIC (writing to consoles, HMCs etc. do require the correct character >

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> As usual, if you have a maintenence contract, the upgrade from > an older z9 EC (a z9-109) to a new z9 EC is free. So if we get new I/O features, does that make it a z9 EC EIO? (I think the marketing people are going to sorely regret this new naming convention. It's just got too many comedy pos

Re: New z9 models

On Friday, 04/28/2006 at 10:03 AST, Neale Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > zArchitecture has PACKA and UNPKA opcodes to pack and unpack decimal. Apart > from CVB/CVD ED/EDMK I don't think there's anything that ties zArchitecture > to EBCDIC (writing to consoles, HMCs etc. do require the cor

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I stand in awe of the hardware all the time :) Regards, Richard Schuh There is a reverence to Hardware Requirements that gives:

Re: New z9 models

zArchitecture has PACKA and UNPKA opcodes to pack and unpack decimal. Apart from CVB/CVD ED/EDMK I don't think there's anything that ties zArchitecture to EBCDIC (writing to consoles, HMCs etc. do require the correct character set but that's a different matter). That's why the port of Linux to S/39

Re: New z9 models

On Thursday, 04/27/2006 at 11:50 EST, Alan Ackerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That announcement keeps talking about "the System z environment". New > terminology? What's > "the System z environment"? Do these new features work on all z* machine, or > only z9 machines? > > There is a rever

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m: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Alan Ackerman >> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:50 AM >> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> Subject: Re: New z9 models >> >> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:22:44 -0400, Richards.Bob >> <[EMAI

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V.UARK.EDU >> Subject: Re: New z9 models >> >> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:22:44 -0400, Richards.Bob >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >Neale, >> > >> >What about this one? PAV support and more for z/VM 5.2! >> > >> >htt

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System z is the new term for zSeries. Anything referred to as System z is the new mainframe architecture. The announcement does refer to the new features, some of them backward compatible with the z990/z900/z890/z800, some of them not. There is a section in the announcement that mentions whic

Re: New z9 models

On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 11:20:29PM -0500, Alan Ackerman wrote: > > Probably not. The ASCII-bit didn't do what you might think. > > All the ASCII-bit did was changed the zone created in zoned-decimal and > packed-deciimal by the > decimal instruction set. The result was NOT ASCII, but what IBM

Re: New z9 models

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:22:44 -0400, Richards.Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED] om> wrote: >Neale, > >What about this one? PAV support and more for z/VM 5.2! > >http://www.ibm.com/isource/cgi-bin/goto?it=usa_annred&on=206-084 That announcement keeps talking about "the System z environment". New ter minology

Re: New z9 models

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:18:14 -0400, David L. Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >How about the ASCII bit, which Linux would find helpful. :) Probably not. The ASCII-bit didn't do what you might think. All the ASCII-bit did was changed the zone created in zoned-decimal and p acked-deciimal by th

Re: New z9 models

That was so long ago that I had forgotten ... :) Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Jones Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject:Re: New z9 models

Re: New z9 models

On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 10:47:16AM -0400, Jim Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And for those of us who are old enough to remember, this does not > derive from BC Mode (S/360) or EC Mode (S/370)! > How about the ASCII bit, which Linux would find helpful. :) -- May the LORD God bless you e

Re: New z9 models

> http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ > http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ So when do we get the Economy Plus class with no in-flight meal, a choice of dumb Hollywood movies and even less legroom? Neat hardware, but who names these things? 8-( Magic Box II, begum. -- db

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> I thought the z9-109 was the follow on to the z990 Dave: z9-109 was renamed today to z9 EC. In addition to the new name, there are now "subcapacity" models of the z9 S08 (4 different speeds on the 1 to 8 way models of the z9 EC) and other enhancements in common with the z9 BC. Jim

Re: New z9 models

Well, yes I am old enough to remember...thanks for bringing that point up, Jim:-) I thought the z9-109 was the follow on to the z990 DJ Jim Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ And for those of us who are old

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> http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ > http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ And for those of us who are old enough to remember, this does not derive from BC Mode (S/360) or EC Mode (S/370)! IBM System z9 EC "Enterprise Class" (formerly IBM System z9 109) IBM System z9 BC "Business Class" You

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