Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-21 Thread George Haddad
David Boyes wrote: If these are the ones that are five or six inches long with a swab on one end, Radio Shack used to carry them. No longer (at least not in DC). They claim they discontinued them when they stopped selling reel-to-reel tape. YMMV. -- db Might be worth

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-21 Thread George Haddad
David Boyes wrote: Pretty scary that the circa 1970s volumes actually seem to have a higher readability index so far. Not too surprising to those who dabble in pro audio, though. In the late 70s-early 80s tape manufacturers developed new/improved formulae for tape backings. Of course t

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-20 Thread Leif Rundberget
The really good cleaning fluid, was issued by STK and a few other third party hardware vendors, was Freon based. But you cannot get it anymore, it has been banned because it damages the ozone layer. So your stuck with denatured alcohol now. Leif David Boyes wrote: Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:48:

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-20 Thread Jim Bohnsack
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid? >=20 > I'll bet that you could find a retired CE to verify that. You could > probably get an answer from IBM as well. Want me to send a note to our > CE? > Jim >=20 > At 0

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread David Boyes
> If these are the ones that are five or six inches long with a swab on one > end, Radio Shack used to carry them. No longer (at least not in DC). They claim they discontinued them when they stopped selling reel-to-reel tape. YMMV. -- db

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread Lloyd Fuller
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:10:56 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: >The stiff cotton swabs that you use to clean the head could be replaced, >I think, by some soft cotton fabric on a medical tongue depressor. > If these are the ones that are five or six inches long with a swab on one end, Radio Shack used to

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:11 PM, David Boyes wrote: Are there any PUT tape with service for non-copyright software in there. COul they be released. I only as the VM/370R6 we have is at (I think) L620 but the latest tape we have is 616 There are service tapes for early releases of VM/370 in th

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread David Boyes
> Are there any PUT tape with service for non-copyright > software in there. COul they be released. > I only as the VM/370R6 we have is at (I think) L620 > but the latest tape we have is 616 There are service tapes for early releases of VM/370 in the collection, but I'd need written permissio

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread Dave Wade
> I plan to publish at least the tape maps of the few > readable volumes in > the whole mess (about 1 tape in 15 are actually > readable so far). I > doubt I'll be able to provide the content unless the > IBM archivist tells > me in writing that they really don't care about 30+ > year old PUT tapes

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread Scott Ray
I have some old stuff from STK..   From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?   Try tape

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread David Boyes
; From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:30 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid? > > I'll bet that you could find a retired

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread David Boyes
> As far as I can recall, DB, the cleaning fluid in the nice IBM pint > cans, was nothing more than denatured alcohol. IBM packaged it for those > shops that had an "all-blue" mandate from management as far as IT > equipment went:-) OK. Isopropyl alcohol is easy to come by. > Thanks, too, fo

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread pfa
Try tape head cleaner for audio tape decks, that might work okay for what you're doing. David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System 07/19/2006 01:48 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject More Anci

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I'll bet that you could find a retired CE to verify that. You could probably get an answer from IBM as well. Want me to send a note to our CE? Jim At 02:10 PM 7/19/2006, you wrote: As far as I can recall, DB, the cleaning fluid in the nice IBM pint cans, was nothing more than denatured alcoho

Re: More Ancient History: source for 3420 cleaning fluid?

2006-07-19 Thread Dave Jones
As far as I can recall, DB, the cleaning fluid in the nice IBM pint cans, was nothing more than denatured alcohol. IBM packaged it for those shops that had an "all-blue" mandate from management as far as IT equipment went:-) The stiff cotton swabs that you use to clean the head could be re