Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-04-04 Thread Imler, Steven J
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les Geer (607-429-3580) > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 01:55 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment > > A word of caution here, I realize it appears the problem is resolved > going from

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-04-04 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
gt;Senior Software Engineer >Tel: +1 703 708 3479 >Fax: +1 703 708 3267 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alain Benveniste >> Sent: Friday, April 04, 200

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-04-04 Thread Imler, Steven J
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 12:12 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment > > Jr, > > If you are interested in, I can send you a copy of our z/VM440. > > Regards > Alain > > > Le 4/04/08 3:26, « Imler, St

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-04-04 Thread Alain Benveniste
nior Software Engineer > Tel: +1 703 708 3479 > Fax: +1 703 708 3267 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> -Original Message- >> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les Geer (607-429-3580) >> Sent: Thursday, April 03,

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-04-03 Thread Imler, Steven J
: Thursday, April 03, 2008 08:42 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment > > >Les and JR, > > > >Firstly : > >Thanks to gave me the info 'PMH 84921,004,000'. I asked our > hardware to l > > > >

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-04-03 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
>Les and JR, > >Firstly : >Thanks to gave me the info 'PMH 84921,004,000'. I asked our hardware to l > >ook >at this. I don't have a feedback yet. > >Secondly : >I was able to IPL our z/VM530 today and ... >- from z/VM440, I ipled z/VM530 2nd lvl and did a test about the target : > > >nothing chang

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-04-03 Thread Alain Benveniste
Les and JR, Firstly : Thanks to gave me the info 'PMH 84921,004,000'. I asked our hardware to l ook at this. I don't have a feedback yet. Secondly : I was able to IPL our z/VM530 today and ... - from z/VM440, I ipled z/VM530 2nd lvl and did a test about the target : nothing changed. Problem sti

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
I just realized you mentioned the target category specified on the mount command was VOLSPECIFIC. Check out PMH 84921,004,000 as this is a known problem being worked. Check with your CE on a timeframe when the fix will be available. Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development >You are

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Alain Benveniste
708 3267 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> -Original Message- >> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les Geer (607-429-3580) >> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 03:03 PM >> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> Subject: Re:

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Imler, Steven J
to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Les Geer (607-429-3580) > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 03:03 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment > > >I suppose you would be aware of our peer-to-peer problem. > > > >When we got

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Stephen Frazier
It might help if you included the error message. :) Gentry, Stephen wrote: Rob do you know what might be causing the errors below? -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Alain Benveniste
Les, You are referring to the z/VM530 documentation, aren't you ? With or without target parameter in the MOUNT cmd, the targetcat is not changed under z/VM440 when asking for a scratch in P2P. Did the test with z/VM530, no change. This hardware situation is a major regression. We could not live

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
>I suppose you would be aware of our peer-to-peer problem. > >When we got a 2nd 3494 in 2004, we decided to make them talk each other >as P2P mode. This situation revealed a major problem related to the target >category. In basic mode, asking to mount a scratch through vmtape, rmsmastr >changed th

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Rob do you know what might be causing the errors below?

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Alain Benveniste
I suppose you would be aware of our peer-to-peer problem. When we got a 2nd 3494 in 2004, we decided to make them talk each other a s P2P mode. This situation revealed a major problem related to the target category. In basic mode, asking to mount a scratch through vmtape, rmsmastr changed the ca

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
>I'm sure the people planning for the new hardware have considered it. >I was just concerned that in their plan they had no native physical tape >for VM. Ann, You should check. Our storage people brought in a remote VTS to replace tapes that were being physically moved offsite. They were complet

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
ch 24, 2008 6:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Have you considered how you will get data from the local VTS to the remote VTS? Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) wrote: > Thanks. I was hoping to VMTAPE mount the maintenance tapes to the > other VM

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Stephen Frazier
Have you considered how you will get data from the local VTS to the remote VTS? Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) wrote: Thanks. I was hoping to VMTAPE mount the maintenance tapes to the other VM systems as FOREIGN tapes. And yes, there will be a VTS at the remote DR site. -- Stephen Frazier Information Te

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
March 24, 2008 6:06 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Ann, You shouldn't have any trouble using virtual tape with VM or VM:Tape. We use it here, primarily for VM:Backup and VM:Spool. VM:Spool uses SPXTAPE under the covers. I'm sur

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Tom Duerbusch
On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Someone there may be getting confused. The IBM DS8300 is a virtual tape system. It can work standalone as a disk based VTS or, in conjunct

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
the term 'backend tape'. I obviously have more to learn. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
, March 24, 2008 3:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Hi Ann, When you say VMTAPE ... I assume you mean CA's VM:Tape product. If this is the case, just call CA's VM Customer Support or open an issue yourself for VM:Tape via CAS

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
Duerbusch Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment Someone there may be getting confused. The IBM DS8300 is a virtual tape system. It can work standalone as a disk based VTS or, in conjunction with the robotics

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
ehalf Of Romanowski, John (OFT) Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:17 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment We do DDR's and SPXTAPE every day to virtual (VTS) tapes. Treat them like physical tapes. SPXTAPE's for DR - same as using physica

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
We do DDR's and SPXTAPE every day to virtual (VTS) tapes. Treat them like physical tapes. SPXTAPE's for DR - same as using physical tapes: if the spool files won't fit on one tape you'll need to mount enough scratch tapes for SPXTAPE to use: vmtape mount scratch 181 dsn jrr.spxtape.1OF3 (retpd 2

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Imler, Steven J
Hi Ann, When you say VMTAPE ... I assume you mean CA's VM:Tape product. If this is the case, just call CA's VM Customer Support or open an issue yourself for VM:Tape via CASupport so we can get a bit more information about your configuration and make some recommendations about what the best opt

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-24 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Someone there may be getting confused. The IBM DS8300 is a virtual tape system. It can work standalone as a disk based VTS or, in conjunction with the robotics side to make it a tape based VTS system (with a very large disk cache). Then, there is the IBM TS1120. These are real tape drives (no