Re: TERM TIMESTAMP ON

2007-02-28 Thread David Boyes
> Sure, that's what most of us do for a subset of the syslog traffic. > But the point I raised is that the driver of /dev/console does not > write "lines" as such but a stream of bytes. Unfortunately true. Syslog-ng is a little better behaved about that, but not much. > Let's share the > war sto

Re: TERM TIMESTAMP ON

2007-02-28 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 2/27/07, David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know it requires a (virtual) network connection, but have you > considered to have syslog write the output 'remote' and catch that on > VM ? Syslog can also log to local files/devices, which doesn't require a external network connection to w

Re: TERM TIMESTAMP ON

2007-02-28 Thread Kris Buelens
Note: SET OBSERVER and SET SECUSER (i.e. SCIF) are mutually exclusive. However: SET OBSERVER still "sees" linemode output when the primary user is logged on; SET SECUSER only sees them when the primary user is disconnected. Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support

Re: TERM TIMESTAMP ON

2007-02-27 Thread David Boyes
> I know it requires a (virtual) network connection, but have you > considered to have syslog write the output 'remote' and catch that on > VM ? Syslog can also log to local files/devices, which doesn't require a external network connection to work. If you have SCIF active, log to /dev/console.

Re: TERM TIMESTAMP ON

2007-02-27 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
I can live with confusion. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: TERM TIMESTAMP ON On 2/27/07, Stracka, James (GTI) <[EM

Re: TERM TIMESTAMP ON

2007-02-27 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 2/27/07, Stracka, James (GTI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Simply put: I want to know if turning it on will hurt anything. If your VM:Operator is supposed to act on some console output, having the time stamp there sometimes will make the match fail. Apart from that, the worst is that someone

Re: TERM TIMESTAMP ON

2007-02-27 Thread Stracka, James (GTI)
Simply put: I want to know if turning it on will hurt anything. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 10:53 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: TERM TIMESTAMP ON On 2/27/07

Re: TERM TIMESTAMP ON

2007-02-27 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 2/27/07, Stracka, James (GTI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone done this? Other than for someone who does a LOGON to the VM console can you see any problem with this? Most lines of what comes on the Linux console is not single lines output, and so CP is limited in what can be done. L

Re: TERM TIMESTAMP ON

2007-02-27 Thread Mike Walter
Jim, Can you clarify: "We do have the SCIF to VM:Operator but that can be time consuming when researching when messages are issued." for me? When scanning the VM:Operator syslog, each message is prefixed by the time it was issued (well... the time VM:Operator processed it, but that's "pretty c