Ethan Lanz wrote:
At which point it was "released" as Day 1! :)
You win!
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At which point it was "released" as Day 1! :)
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Jack Woehr wrote:
> Schuh, Richard wrote:
>
>> Only if you are counting bits, bytes, words, etc., and then only if it is
>> an offset you are counting. Who thought of using offset instead of ordinal
>> numbers, anyway
> z/OS being the current
> poster
> child
I can just see the rain-drenched vista of the Poughkeepsie IBM plant in the
poster with a soaking wet z10 sitting on the lawn out front, with the word
"Give." in a big white square at the bottom of the poster.
-- db
Schuh, Richard wrote:
Only if you are counting bits, bytes, words, etc., and then only if it is an
offset you are counting. Who thought of using offset instead of ordinal
numbers, anyway?
The Almighty started on the zero'th day. After he did his work, the
earth was without form and void, and
On Wednesday, 07/08/2009 at 10:37 EDT, RPN01 wrote:
> If I remember the story correctly, you won't see a version such as 6.0,
> because in IBM wisdom, this would imply that there would be following
> releases (due to the decimal). Now why it's ok to have 6.1, and why that
> doesn't carry the same
mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Jack Woehr
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> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
>
> Ethan Lanz wrote:
> > The first release of each version is necessarily "Release 1."
> To people who l
Ethan Lanz wrote:
The first release of each version is necessarily "Release 1."
To people who learned programming from Rexx.
To those of us who use assembler, Forth, C, Java, it would be Release 0 :)
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Um - z/OS V1 R 1-10 to this point.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Ethan Lanz wrote:
> IBM's use of V6.1 is shorthand for Version 6 Release 1. The first release
> of each version is necessarily "Release 1." What IBM avoids (IIRC) is
> *Version* 1, as that implies a future version, presumab
IBM's use of V6.1 is shorthand for Version 6 Release 1. The first release
of each version is necessarily "Release 1." What IBM avoids (IIRC) is
*Version* 1, as that implies a future version, presumably with substantial
upgrades.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:35 AM, RPN01 wrote:
> If I remember the
If I remember the story correctly, you won't see a version such as 6.0,
because in IBM wisdom, this would imply that there would be following
releases (due to the decimal). Now why it's ok to have 6.1, and why that
doesn't carry the same implication, I don't know.
--
Robert P. Nix Mayo F
Mike Walter wrote:
>For that matter, z/VM Version 6.1? What happened to Version 6.0? Doesn't
>everyone know that odd-numbered versions are considered unlucky?
Can't have Version 6 Release 0 ... ya know?
...phsiii
> After a z10, it would always be a z11 if IBM suddenly switched over to
> binary, right? Then a z100, etc...
Well, actually, assuming any reasonably rational base, 11 would always follow
10. The question gets interesting when you reach n symbols in a single position
(assuming zero as minimum).
Mike Walter wrote:
After a z10, it would always be a z11 if IBM suddenly switched over to
binary, right? Then a z100, etc...
Let's try to make sense of the marketroids branding system..
1st, let's look at the facts : In chronological order, and excluding the
'BC' class systems (z800, z89
ting System"
07/07/2009 03:30 PM
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Mike,
zA would come after z9, not z10.
Dennis
"A good
>>> On 7/7/2009 at 4:12 PM, wrote:
> Already have, just hoping someone may have this working; or are we
> trying to do something that really has not been done or proven in a
> production business environment.
I've done it a number of times on my z/VM guest, and never saw this issue.
Mark Post
On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 03:33 EDT, russell.gendr...@custserv.com wrote:
> Well we have been trying to set this up under z/VM 5.4 with suse10 sp 2
> on a layer 2 switch with no luck. So I guess we should hold off until
> 6.1 is available :-)
>
> Anyone having any luck with the ability to move Lin
sarily
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
"Huegel, Thomas"
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>>Behalf Of Alan Altmark
>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:05 PM
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>If you mean "Is a z/VM Single System Image similar to a z/OS SYSPLEX?"
>then I would answer "Sort of."
Wouldn't it be zB ? :)
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z11? And you call yourself a __SYSP
55 PM
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>>> On 7/7/2009 at 3:31 PM, wrote:
> Well we have been trying to set this up under z/VM 5.4 with suse10 sp
2
> on a layer 2 switch with no luck. So I guess we should hold off until
> 6.1 is available
In the days of O/S 360, the even numbered releases were the bad ones. Was it
perhaps because of the team alignments? We went from O/S MFT R15 to R17 and
then to R21 and had very little trouble with any of them. On the other hand,
the people I knew who installed R16 and R20 had all sorts of troub
>>> On 7/7/2009 at 3:31 PM, wrote:
> Well we have been trying to set this up under z/VM 5.4 with suse10 sp 2
> on a layer 2 switch with no luck. So I guess we should hold off until
> 6.1 is available :-)
I doubt this has anything to do with the version of z/VM you're running. >From
what I ca
2009 11:11 AM
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Or later .. is it time for z11 yet??
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[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
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I hope that Linux is the first, not the only, guest O/S that can be
supported by Guest Relocation.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
>
>
Or later .. is it time for z11 yet??
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Behalf Of Rich Smrcina
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:32 AM
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Correct.
Hodge, Robert L
On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 12:27 EDT, "Mr. Woofer"
wrote:
> Is this GDPS/VM???
Not really, no. GDPS is a collection of Services offerings that create an
automated recovery HA/DR environment for System z (site failover, I/O
failover, ...) with special focus on z/OS. GDPS already supports z/VM.
I wonder if some of them were the new decimal floating point instructions from
Rexx that are now in the hardware... ;-)
-Chip-
On 7/7/09 13:37 Alan Altmark said:
True. We wanted to exploit instructions that are available only on the
z10.
Nope, but you can buy that today if you really wanted to.
It's called "GDPS/PPRC Multiplatform Resiliency for System z (Cross Platform
Disaster Recovery)"
http://ew.share.org/client_files/callpapers/attach/SHARE_in_Orlando/S5247NL094447.pdf
(GDPS/VM would be a much easier to understand/remember
I get the US IBM Announcements and this was in it today.
http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10577_5037_121009_email_DYN_1IN/gvuhb33457147
Jim
William D Carroll wrote:
Also, Did you catch this part of the announcement=0D=0A"IBM Europe, Middle=
East, and Africa Marketing Announcement ZA09-0015"
Is this GDPS/VM???
Alan Altmark wrote:
On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 02:25 EDT, Ivan Warren
wrote:
Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary :
http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt106679968
Basically, it's z/VM 6
I hope that Linux is the first, not the only, guest O/S that can be supported
by Guest Relocation.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
>
> * *z/VM Live Guest Relocation*
>
> IBM intends to further strengthen single system image support by
> providing live guest relocation. This is plan
rvers."
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Behalf Of Marcy Cortes
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Those are Statements of Direction, not in 6.1.
But good stuf
vmua/
William D Carroll
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Also, Did you catch this part of the announcement
"IBM Europe, Middle
Correct.
Hodge, Robert L wrote:
I interpret the following to say that V6.1 will only run on a z10.
Correct/Incorrect?
"This release implements a new Architecture Level Set (ALS) available
only on the IBM System z10 Enterprise Class server and System z10
Business Class server and future generati
ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
> Behalf Of Marcy Cortes
> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 8:32 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
>
> Those are Statements of Direction, not in 6.1.
> But good stuff!!! Hurry up and bring on 6.2! (if that is what
DU
Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 - IBM Preview Letter..
On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 02:25 EDT, Ivan Warren
wrote:
> Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary :
>
>
http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt106679968
>
> Basically, it's
Ivan Warren wrote:
Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary :
http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt106679968
Basically, it's z/VM 6.1.. Don't know if anyone had said anything
about it previously..
Anyway.. the most striking "feature" I see
On Tuesday, 07/07/2009 at 02:25 EDT, Ivan Warren
wrote:
> Found this little link in my weekly announcement summary :
>
>
http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10576_5350_121006_email_DYN_1IN/fremt106679968
>
> Basically, it's z/VM 6.1.. Don't know if anyone had said anything about
> it previously.
Those are Statements of Direction, not in 6.1.
But good stuff!!! Hurry up and bring on 6.2! (if that is what they are in!).
Marcy
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