Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-02 Thread Alan Ackerman
What command are you issuing on the CMS client? Alan Ackerman

Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-02 Thread Schuh, Richard
v.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:11 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question > > On Wednesday, 12/01/2010 at 11:43 EST, "Schuh, Richard" > > wrote: > > Thanks for the reply, Alan.

Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-02 Thread Richard Troth
No. Look again. There is an important topological difference between UFT and NJE-IP. UFT is just another IP protocol (one that looks more like RSCS than, say, FTP). Your network topology does not change. While NJE-over-IP is a network-on-a-network. Full-blown RSCS, but with a whole raft of "nod

Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 12/02/2010 at 10:08 EST, Richard Troth wrote: > The bottom line for UFT is to do over TCP what RSCS does over CTC/VTAM/NJE, but > not in the way NJE/IP does. (Of course, it might be a good hint to the present > NJE/IP authors and owners to create a UFT driver for their stuff.

Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-02 Thread Colin Allinson
Alan Altmark wrote :- > I would have thought that everyone's IT host & network security > departments would be turning the screws on unencrypted and unauthenticated > transmission to/from VM of any sensitive data and/or passwords. ("You > mean you let MAINT's password flow in clear-text over

Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 12/02/2010 at 09:32 EST, Richard Troth wrote: > RXSSL comes to mind. As it happens, a couple of us were discussing RXSSL > off-list within the past day. Seems that it may need some attention to get it > working with the new VM SSL. As I'm sure you have discovered, the challeng

Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-02 Thread Richard Troth
Yep. A new RFC is needed. The original author has been saying that for ten years, has asked for collaborators, and is still open. The original design intentionally left compression and encryption out of scope. The advent of SSL suggests that was probably a good choice. ZIP has been around sinc

Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-02 Thread Richard Troth
sage- > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System > > [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark > > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 6:53 AM > > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > > Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question > > > > On Tuesday, 11/3

Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 12/02/2010 at 08:15 EST, Mark Wheeler wrote: > It would be nice if UFT(D) would support it. RFC 1440 does not define a mechanism for the UFT client and server to negotiate and initiate TLS. A new RFC is needed. (Note that the IETF now requires protocols to be able to negotiate T

Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-02 Thread Mark Wheeler
> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:10:41 -0500 > From: alan_altm...@us.ibm.com > Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Btw, I don't see very much pressure being placed on z/VM to provide > client-side TLS support for homegrown RxSocket

Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 12/01/2010 at 11:43 EST, "Schuh, Richard" wrote: > Thanks for the reply, Alan. So it is not possible using RXSOCKET. Is it > possible from a CMS client running a home-grown assembler or Pipelines program, > or is it a lost cause? A lost cause, I would say. Implicit/Static TLS/S

Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-01 Thread Schuh, Richard
mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 6:53 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question > > On Tuesday, 11/30/2010 at 06:39 EST, "Schuh, Richard" > > wrote: > > > We have

Re: z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-12-01 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 11/30/2010 at 06:39 EST, "Schuh, Richard" wrote: > We have a person who is trying to get a secure end-to-end transaction between a > CMS client and a TPF host. RXSOCKET is being used by the CMS client. The port > specified is 51105, which has been designated as a secure port. He

z/VM 6.1, SSLSERV Question

2010-11-30 Thread Schuh, Richard
We have a person who is trying to get a secure end-to-end transaction between a CMS client and a TPF host. RXSOCKET is being used by the CMS client. The port specified is 51105, which has been designated as a secure port. He has traced the SSLSERV and sees no traffic going through it; however,

Re: Z/VM SSLSERV Question

2009-05-19 Thread Brian W Hugenbruch
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Re: Z/VM SSLSERV Question

2009-05-19 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
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Re: Z/VM SSLSERV Question

2009-05-19 Thread Brian W Hugenbruch
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Z/VM SSLSERV Question

2009-05-19 Thread Hughes, Jim
This message is in our SSLSERV start up console log and its not in the manual: MSG FROM TCPIP : Restarting you because you have no passive open on TCP port The following line is present in the TCPIP TCPIP file used to startup the TCPIP service machine and is in the port reservation sect

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-30 Thread Kris Buelens
2009/3/30 Jim Bohnsack : > On my 2nd level system installed from the IBM ddr and then the SSL PTF, when > I try what Richard suggested, I get the following: > > ls -la > /etc > Erwxrwxrwx 1 maintsystem21 Oct 2 15:55 /etc -> > /../VMBFS:VMSYSU:E > TC > $ > > Is that normal? Why is it

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-30 Thread Jim Bohnsack
On my 2nd level system installed from the IBM ddr and then the SSL PTF, when I try what Richard suggested, I get the following: ls -la /etc Erwxrwxrwx   1 maint    system    21 Oct  2 15:55 /etc -> /../VMBFS:VMSYSU:E TC  

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-23 Thread David Boyes
On 3/22/09 3:31 PM, "Alan Altmark" wrote: > Sorry, David, that would just make things worse since we'd keep shipping a > new CONFIG filepool in each release as we do with VMSYS and VMSYSU, and > then there would be two *global* CONFIG filepools in the collection. Two > objects would attempt to

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-22 Thread Kris Buelens
In this new redbook we do indeed recommend to create a special filepool as storage space for the certificates and the LDAP databases, this to avoid problems with release migrations. The principle: customer data in your filepool; software in IBM's VMSYS. This is definitely not the way things are e

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Sunday, 03/22/2009 at 03:17 EDT, David Boyes wrote: > Sounds like a good practice for the next release. Call it CONFIG or > something like that, and fix the apps like DFSMS to put their config > files there by default. Sorry, David, that would just make things worse since we'd keep shipping

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-22 Thread David Boyes
> You might find it worth the effort to create your own SFS filepool > so that > release-to-release migrations don't create a disruption since you > have to > actually migrate VMSYS content. With your own global filepool, > your 2nd > level system can down to the 1st level system (via TSAF)

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/20/2009 at 09:29 EDT, Jim Bohnsack wrote: > Thank you all for your responses. It sounds as if it is as I suspected, > a total lack of knowledge about BSF and almost as much of a lack of > knowledge about SFS. It might be a good idea to include some of these > SFS/BFS peculiar hint

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-21 Thread Dave Jones
The Redbook Kris is referring to can be found here: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg245148.html?Open. There is an overview of BFS is Chapter 2. Another Redbook that might be of interest is "OpenEdition for VM/ESA A Implementation and Administration Guide" (http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/a

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-21 Thread Jim Bohnsack
A useful Redbook or Redpaper, or whatever category it could be put into, would be very useful. There must be others besides me who would benefit from everything being in one place and being complete. What Alan said in his response to my post was not mentioned anywhere that I've seen. As I've

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-21 Thread Kris Buelens
Seeking for some brief SFS/BFS overview: a certain DJ, well known here, might remember I asked him in 1998 to devote a small section of the VM/ESA Network computing with Java And NetRexx (SG24-5148) Redbook to it. I wrote something similar for the upcoming Redbook about password synchronization bet

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-20 Thread Jim Bohnsack
Thank you all for your responses. It sounds as if it is as I suspected, a total lack of knowledge about BSF and almost as much of a lack of knowledge about SFS. It might be a good idea to include some of these SFS/BFS peculiar hints or ideas in the TCPIP doc, especially for the VM newbie (as

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-20 Thread Richard Troth
I cannot say enough good about how Endicott implemented OpenVM ... now some 15+ years ago. The way the POSIX info is rolled into the CP Dir is spot on. There are issues, notably performance concerns and a gross lack of attention (thanks to the distracting popularity of Linux on VM). But the core

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-20 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 03/20/2009 at 01:13 EDT, Jim Bohnsack wrote: > I have a dumb question and a long posting. Sorry. We have SSLSERV > working on our 2nd lvl z/VM 5.4 system, the one I loaded from the IBM > DDR. I always bring up a new release on a 2nd level id and then move > code piece by piece to ou

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-20 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
for me. Dennis O'Brien 39,516 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 10:13 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] BFS SS

Re: BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-20 Thread Rich Smrcina
Jim Bohnsack wrote: GSKKYMAN gives me the database menu and my replies are as follows: Enter key database name (press ENTER to return to menu): /etc/gskADM/KeyDBT.kdb Enter database password (press ENTER to return to menu):

BFS SSLSERV question

2009-03-20 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I have a dumb question and a long posting. Sorry. We have SSLSERV working on our 2nd lvl z/VM 5.4 system, the one I loaded from the IBM DDR. I always bring up a new release on a 2nd level id and then move code piece by piece to our production systems. Almost everything is moved, but I am up

Re: SSLSERV question

2009-02-17 Thread Robert J Brenneman
Here's a writeup I put together when I had to do it: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/e0z1p161/26.1.1?SHELF=&DT=20080627173833&CASE= Watch for wrap on that URL. -- Jay Brenneman

Re: SSLSERV question

2009-02-17 Thread Adam Thornton
On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 02/17/2009 at 01:41 EST, clifford jackson wrote: I am in the process of building a SSLSERV virtual machine, under z/VM 5.3 SLU 801, using SLES 9 SP3. ONE question is there a Red book for this process?.. No. We tried to make the

Re: SSLSERV question

2009-02-17 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 02/17/2009 at 01:41 EST, clifford jackson wrote: > I am in the process of building a SSLSERV virtual machine, under z/VM 5.3 SLU > 801, using SLES 9 SP3. ONE question is there a Red book for this process?.. No. We tried to make the instructions in the TCP/IP Planning & Admin book

Re: SSLSERV question

2009-02-17 Thread Huegel, Thomas
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SSLSERV question

2009-02-17 Thread clifford jackson
I am in the process of building a SSLSERV virtual machine, under z/VM 5.3 SLU 801, using SLES 9 SP3. ONE question is there a Red book for this process….. _ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn “10 hidden secrets” from Jamie. http

Re: SSLSERV question

2007-07-23 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 07/23/2007 at 06:42 EDT, "Huegel, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now I have this SSLSERV / LINUX machine running. I can do SSLADMIN commands. > I have port 992 TCP SECURE TESTING. > "TESTING" is a valid X509 certificate. > My emulator is set to SSL enabled and accept selfsign

Re: SSLSERV question

2007-07-23 Thread Hans Rempel
I had trouble with Hummingbird until I received the SSL feature. Which 3270 product are you using? hans _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: July 23, 2007 6:42 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: SSLSERV question

Re: SSLSERV question

2007-07-23 Thread dave
ly connect with a secure VM site via the SSLSERV. DJ - Original Message Follows - From: "Huegel, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: SSLSERV question Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:42:28 -0500 > Now I have this SSLSERV / LINUX machine running. I

SSLSERV question

2007-07-23 Thread Huegel, Thomas
Now I have this SSLSERV / LINUX machine running. I can do SSLADMIN commands. I have port 992 TCP SECURE TESTING. "TESTING" is a valid X509 certificate. My emulator is set to SSL enabled and accept selfsigned certificates. But I can't connect.. Anyone have a clue as to what I might be missing? T

Re: ZVM and SSLSERV Question

2007-02-14 Thread David Boyes
> > > Does using this SSL appliance allow the ZVM FTP Client to make SSL > > > connections? > > > > In z/VM 5.3, yes. Earlier, no. Circle June 29 on your calendar. If you can't wait for 5.3 to arrive/install/go production, we do have a inexpensive FTP->FTPS proxy appliance that you might be able

Re: ZVM and SSLSERV Question

2007-02-13 Thread Thomas Kern
SSLSERV on z/VM 5.1 can provide IMPLICIT protection for FTP, but it is unpleasant and I have found ONLY one windows client that will work with it. SSLSERV can also protect HTTPS and POPS. /Thomas Kern /U.S. Department of Energy /301-903-2211 --- Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesd

Re: ZVM and SSLSERV Question

2007-02-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 02/13/2007 at 04:33 EST, "Hughes, Jim - OIT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Will there be any changes in the IBM ZVM SSL offering? Yes. Support for newer levels of SLES9 and RHEL4, as well as some administrative improvements. Some more encryption suites. Nothing earth-shattering.

Re: ZVM and SSLSERV Question

2007-02-13 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT
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Re: ZVM and SSLSERV Question

2007-02-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 02/13/2007 at 04:22 EST, "Hughes, Jim - OIT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does using this SSL appliance allow the ZVM FTP Client to make SSL > connections? In z/VM 5.3, yes. Earlier, no. Circle June 29 on your calendar. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott

ZVM and SSLSERV Question

2007-02-13 Thread Hughes, Jim - OIT
Does using this SSL appliance allow the ZVM FTP Client to make SSL connections? Jim Hughes 603-271-5586 "There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about." John von Neumann