Re: permanent 40-50% difference between added cpu% of all guest machines and IND LOAD cpu%

2008-11-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The ttime and vtime count in ind user are always the same on this system - maybe a few seconds difference. But as the lpar1 is the only running lpar,- the other defined lpar is not operating -, the defined lpar weight (no capping) is not relevant. This lpar receives the complete processing powe

Re: permanent 40-50% difference between added cpu% of all guest machines and IND LOAD cpu%

2008-11-24 Thread Eginhard Jaeger
If it isn't using dedicated CPUs every VM system running in an LPAR can have the same 'involuntary wait' problem as a VM running second level. The point is, in both cases, that the system doesn't have 100% of a CPU available but only the part LPAR management (or the higher CP level) let it use. As

Re: permanent 40-50% difference between added cpu% of all guest machines and IND LOAD cpu%

2008-11-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
the system is a z9 BC with zVM 5.3 in Lpar 1 as the only running system on the machine. No second level just a normal VM/VSE system, not something special. My colleague has told me, he had such a behaviour at another site some time ago and it was a defect channel, where VM tried a permanent rec

Re: permanent 40-50% difference between added cpu% of all guest machines and IND LOAD cpu%

2008-11-24 Thread Kris Buelens
My guess is that this VM system is second level (probably under LPAR, but a host VM would yield the same). The involuntary CPU waits imposed by the first level (LPAR or CP) is not known to IND LOAD, it is taken as busy. If the first level host decides your zVM gets e.g. 50% of the entire system, a

Re: permanent 40-50% difference between added cpu% of all guest machines and IND LOAD cpu%

2008-11-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There is no perfomance monitor. I had written a rexx procedure which issues an IND USER for each machine every minute and calculates from the difference to the value of the minute before the cpu consumption for this single machine. IBM in Germany (in Person Hans Joachim Ebert, meanwhile a retir

Re: permanent 40-50% difference between added cpu% of all guest machines and IND LOAD cpu%

2008-11-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:41 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: permanent 40-50% difference between added cpu% of all guest machines and IND LOAD cpu% Hello listers, I have installed zVSE 4.1.1 und zVM 5.3 (Level 0703

Re: permanent 40-50% difference between added cpu% of all guest machines and IND LOAD cpu%

2008-11-24 Thread Rich Smrcina
Do you have a performance monitor that can help you narrow down if a specific VSE machine is the culprit? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello listers, I have installed zVSE 4.1.1 und zVM 5.3 (Level 0703) at a customer where we replaced vm/vtam with an additional 4th zVSE machine with only vtam ru

Re: permanent 40-50% difference between added cpu% of all guest machines and IND LOAD cpu%

2008-11-24 Thread Edward M Martin
cpu% of all guest machines and IND LOAD cpu% Hello listers, I have installed zVSE 4.1.1 und zVM 5.3 (Level 0703) at a customer where we replaced vm/vtam with an additional 4th zVSE machine with only vtam running for cross-domain between three zVSE4 systems. Before the change of the environment

permanent 40-50% difference between added cpu% of all guest machines and IND LOAD cpu%

2008-11-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello listers, I have installed zVSE 4.1.1 und zVM 5.3 (Level 0703) at a customer where we replaced vm/vtam with an additional 4th zVSE machine with only vtam running for cross-domain between three zVSE4 systems. Before the change of the environment the customer was on zVSE 4.1.0. The added