Re: z/VM 5.4; 6.1

2011-02-10 Thread gclovis
mally. __ Clovis From: Alan Altmark To: IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Date: 09/02/2011 18:50 Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4; 6.1 Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System On Wednesday, 02/09/2011 at 01:52 EST, Rob van der Heij wrote: > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Alan

Re: z/VM 5.4; 6.1

2011-02-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 02/09/2011 at 01:52 EST, Rob van der Heij wrote: > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: > > > I recommend that when you're done with installation, go back and > > reallocate those volumes so that they are entirely SPOL or PAGE. > > after you're done formatting th

Re: z/VM 5.4; 6.1

2011-02-09 Thread gclovis
mance, when mixing MDISK with PAGE and SPOOL... Personally, I prefer use it as MDISK with low I/O (RSU, Logs, historical data, Linux 191, etc). __ Clovis From: Marcy Cortes To: IBMVM@listserv.uark.edu Date: 09/02/2011 15:51 Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4; 6

Re: z/VM 5.4; 6.1

2011-02-09 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: >  I recommend that when you're done with installation, go back and > reallocate those volumes so that they are entirely SPOL or PAGE. after you're done formatting those remaining cylinders, I assume... (and if you get ICKDSF wrong, good news i

Re: z/VM 5.4; 6.1

2011-02-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 02/09/2011 at 03:10 EST, Jakub x wrote: > Hello, > Can I install z/VM (5.4 or 6.1) on dasd 9 model 27 ? Yes. > I found in documentation "Only 3390 Model 3 or 9 is supported for installation > of z/VM. " but in another part of documentation I saw that "DASD 9 including > large M

Re: z/VM 5.4; 6.1

2011-02-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
> If z/VM could be installed on any model of 3390-3 or greater, why would > they say that it could only be installed on a MOD-3 or a MOD-9? To me > that means that their install process is model specific. So why? A disk with 32760 cylinders is a model 9. Model 27 is just a short hand way of re

Re: z/VM 5.4; 6.1

2011-02-09 Thread David Boyes
> No, I'm thinking the CP allocation bit maps. Not a problem, since unallocated space is assumed to be PERM. > If z/VM could be installed on any model of 3390-3 or greater, why would > they say that it could only be installed on a MOD-3 or a MOD-9? To me > that means that their install process

Re: z/VM 5.4; 6.1

2011-02-09 Thread Tom Duerbusch
No, I'm thinking the CP allocation bit maps. Consider a different view. If z/VM could be installed on any model of 3390-3 or greater, why would they say that it could only be installed on a MOD-3 or a MOD-9? To me that means that their install process is model specific. So why? Is it that the

Re: z/VM 5.4; 6.1

2011-02-09 Thread David Boyes
Yes. 2/3 of the disks will be empty, but the install will work fine. 8-) From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Jakub x Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:10 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM 5.4; 6.1 Hello, Can I install z/VM (5.4 or

Re: z/VM 5.4; 6.1

2011-02-09 Thread Scott Rohling
I don't understand why you say the install can't be done on something greater than a mod 9 ... I'm pretty sure it can - if you don't mind empty space. Cylinder 0 is sufficient.. maybe you are thinking of XLINK bit maps? Scott Rohling On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: >

Re: z/VM 5.4; 6.1

2011-02-09 Thread Tom Duerbusch
The question comes back to what sized volumes can be CPOWNED? A CPOWNED volume has a bit map that defines the CP areas. The install of VM is really just a DDR restore and the bit maps are defined by IBM. On the smaller volumes, wasn't it one track for the bit maps? And for the larger volumes yo

Re: z/VM 5.4; 6.1

2011-02-09 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
. Ramaekers Jr. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Jakub x Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 2:10 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM 5.4; 6.1 Hello, Can I install z/VM (5.4 or 6.1) on dasd 9 model

Re: z/VM 5.4; 6.1

2011-02-09 Thread Jeff Gribbin
Do you already have a z/VM system? If yes, you'll certainly have no problem installing the new z/VM in a virtual machine using 3390-9 sized minidisks. Then, once installed, you can DDR the packs onto the starting cylinders of, 'dedicated' volumes (or even better, complete the configuration work in

Re: z/VM 5.4; 6.1

2011-02-09 Thread Kris Buelens
My guess is that you can install on models larger than model 9, but you will need the same number of volumes as for an installation on model 9. This idea/guess is confirmed by the second sentence that you read. It is however possible that the allocation for page and spool would only cover the mod

z/VM 5.4; 6.1

2011-02-09 Thread Jakub x
Hello, Can I install z/VM (5.4 or 6.1) on dasd 9 model 27 ? I found in documentation "Only 3390 Model 3 or 9 is supported for installation of z/VM. " but in another part of documentation I saw that "DASD 9 including large Model 9s known as Model 27 and Model 54". Best regards, Jakub Szefler