Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-03 Thread Schuh, Richard
Back in the days when Lyn Hadley had the title of Ombudsman, he took it personally if anyone said that something was BAD (for the newbies, Broken as Designed) or WAD (Working as Designed), and tried to eliminate that kind of response from the IBM vocabulary. If something is WAD, but the design h

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-03 Thread David Boyes
On 2/2/10 9:48 PM, "O'Brien, Dennis L" wrote: > Richard Schuh wrote, >> Dennis, You said 16 hours to upload the files. Are you using a 56KB dial-up >> connection? >My PC is about 1000 miles from the VM system, so I thought it >> might be slower than the >33 minutes it took. I was hoping for some

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread Chip Davis
On 2/2/10 22:52 Alan Altmark said: On Tuesday, 02/02/2010 at 03:18 EST, "Schuh, Richard" wrote: And to make matters worse, the only local FTP server I can use is the one on VM. That makes uploading hundreds or thousands of files a real pain. If only the distribution had an option of some VM-fr

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Richard Schuh wrote, >Dennis, You said 16 hours to upload the files. Are you using a 56KB dial-up >connection? >My PC is about 1000 miles from the VM system, so I thought it >might be slower than the >33 minutes it took. I was hoping for something >better than 16 hours, but I didn't >expect it

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread John Harris
Message -- Received: 06:41 PM EST, 02/02/2010 From: "O'Brien, Dennis L" To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 Install Mike, Yes, you have to download the (big honkin') files to a PC, unzip there, and upload to VM. In my case, I upload to

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread David Boyes
On 2/2/10 7:41 PM, "Schuh, Richard" wrote: > Dennis, You said 16 hours to upload the files. Are you using a 56KB dial-up > connection? My PC is about 1000 miles from the VM system, so I thought it > might be slower than the 33 minutes it took. I was hoping for something better > than 16 hours,

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread Schuh, Richard
I just finished uploading the 973 files. It only took 33 minutes. Here is the sequence of commands: Ftp -i vm3 User>id Password>pwd >cd id.2000 >lcd c:\downloaddirector\unzip\cpdvd >bin >quote site fixrec 1028 >mput * The -i switch says to transfer the files without requesting confirm

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread Mike Walter
ike Walter "O'Brien, Dennis L" Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" 02/02/2010 05:40 PM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM 6.1 Install Mike, Yes, you have to download the (big honki

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 15:13 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 6.1 Install Dennis, That solves the FTP multiple file to an MDISK problem. But how does on UNZIP a ZIPed file on VM? Was there a step in the instructions that explains

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread August Carideo
We are running VSE under VM and can't seem to figure what was missed we are getting these messages on VSE I know all the particulars are not here and will supply them on request thanks, Augie F7-0173 IPN300A Enter TCP/IP Command F7 0171 0S39I ERROR DURING OSA EXPRESS PROCESSING,REASON=0028 F7 0

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread Mike Walter
IBM z/VM Operating System" To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: z/VM 6.1 Install Richard, MPUT accepts wildcards. Please let us know how using the VM FTP server works out. I tried it with z/VM 5.1.0, and it wasn't very happy with the lack of file types on the input files. I don'

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 02/02/2010 at 03:18 EST, "Schuh, Richard" wrote: > And to make matters worse, the only local FTP server I can use is the one on > VM. That makes uploading hundreds or thousands of files a real pain. If only > the distribution had an option of some VM-friendly format in addition to

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread Schuh, Richard
RK.EDU > Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 Install > > Richard, > MPUT accepts wildcards. > > Please let us know how using the VM FTP server works out. I > tried it with z/VM 5.1.0, and it wasn't very happy with the > lack of file types on the input files. I don't recall

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
e cheap!" -- Heath Ledger as The Joker, in The Dark Knight -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 09:34 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 6.1 Install

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread Schuh, Richard
ary 02, 2010 11:08 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 Install > > On Monday, 02/01/2010 at 07:39 EST, "Schuh, Richard" > wrote: > > I feel like a fish out of water. I ordered z/VM 6.1 to be delivered > > electronically, which may have been a mistake. > > Nah. The mistake was IBM's. >

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 02/01/2010 at 07:39 EST, "Schuh, Richard" wrote: > I feel like a fish out of water. I ordered z/VM 6.1 to be delivered > electronically, which may have been a mistake. Nah. The mistake was IBM's. > I have downloaded to the PC, and uploaded to a VM disk, the files pointed to by >

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread Schuh, Richard
hip Davis > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:38 PM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 Install > > As someone whose first VM install was BSEPP, if that is the > _simpler_ process, it makes me think IBM should hire some > Microsofties to design a new system insta

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread Schuh, Richard
. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:58 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 Install Richard, I think the TERS

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-02 Thread Schuh, Richard
they are not in packed format. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of P S Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 4:45 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 Install On Mon, Feb 1, 20

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-01 Thread Chip Davis
things have in common? They're cheap!" -- Heath Ledger as The Joker, in The Dark Knight *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] *On Behalf Of *Schuh, Richard *Sent:* Monday, February 01, 2010 16:39 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* [IBMVM] z/V

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-01 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
hings have in common? They're cheap!" -- Heath Ledger as The Joker, in The Dark Knight From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 16:39 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 6.1 Install I

Re: z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-01 Thread P S
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Schuh, Richard wrote: > I feel like a fish out of water. I ordered z/VM 6.1 to be delivered > electronically, which may have been a mistake. > > >- I have downloaded to the PC, and uploaded to a VM disk, the files >pointed to by the notification letter. Th

z/VM 6.1 Install

2010-02-01 Thread Schuh, Richard
I feel like a fish out of water. I ordered z/VM 6.1 to be delivered electronically, which may have been a mistake. * I have downloaded to the PC, and uploaded to a VM disk, the files pointed to by the notification letter. These were files that have TERS file types. The recfm/blksize a