Re: Hasty procedural changes (was: Re: [RFC 3777 Update for Vacancies])

2012-10-25 Thread Scott O Bradner
On Oct 25, 2012, at 11:03 AM, John C Klensin wrote: > (ii) The IESG could use its implied authority to interpret RFC > 2026 (an authority it has at least implicitly applied many times > in the past). It could interpret the 2026 variance procedure as > applying to all bodies to which 2026 applies

Re: Hasty procedural changes (was: Re: [RFC 3777 Update for Vacancies])

2012-10-25 Thread SM
Hi John, At 08:03 25-10-2012, John C Klensin wrote: (ii) The IESG could use its implied authority to interpret RFC 2026 (an authority it has at least implicitly applied many times in the past). It could interpret the 2026 variance procedure as applying to all bodies to which 2026 applies, whethe

Re: Hasty procedural changes (was: Re: [RFC 3777 Update for Vacancies])

2012-10-25 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:24 -0400 John Leslie wrote: >... >> I really, strongly, object to this way of proceeding. Making >> fundamental procedural changes in haste and in the middle of a >> perceived crisis is never a good idea for any organization. > >I don't agree this is a "f

Re: Hasty procedural changes (was: Re: [RFC 3777 Update for Vacancies])

2012-10-25 Thread John Leslie
John C Klensin wrote: > --On Thapparently-strongly-held ursday, October 25, 2012 09:23 > -0400 Barry Leiba wrote: >... >> If we do that, unless something odd happens we will have this >> process update formally approved BY OUR PROCESS in five weeks. >> >> Let's please not delay. > > I really,

Hasty procedural changes (was: Re: [RFC 3777 Update for Vacancies])

2012-10-25 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thapparently-strongly-held ursday, October 25, 2012 09:23 -0400 Barry Leiba wrote: > Bob, Russ... repeating here what I said in the other thread, I > suggest that... > > - the authors of draft-ietf-genarea-bcp10upd post an -01 > version TODAY, incorporating comments received so far, > >