RE: MPLS,IETF, etc..

2001-09-09 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
--On 4. september 2001 02:32 -0400 "Natale, Robert C (Bob)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do believe that the MPLS -> MPlS -> G-MPLS expansion to > accommodate PSC and TDM -> LSC -> FSC devices is a beneficial > and natural extension. The benefits offered by the traffic > engineering opportu

Re: MPLS,IETF, etc..

2001-09-04 Thread Mahadevan Iyer
Jon Crowcroft wrote: > a node might be simpler but the system composed of a graph of suvch > nodes more complex - you (as switch or router vendors) might get to > make your h/w or s/w simpler at the level of forwarding, bu the overal > syusytem that manages routes and traffic might be less simp

Re: MPLS,IETF, etc..

2001-09-03 Thread Jon Crowcroft
a node might be simpler but the system composed of a graph of suvch nodes more complex - you (as switch or router vendors) might get to make your h/w or s/w simpler at the level of forwarding, bu the overal syusytem that manages routes and traffic might be less simple and (therefore) more failur

RE: MPLS,IETF, etc..

2001-09-03 Thread Natale, Robert C (Bob)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 1:07 AM Hi Valdis, > Now as for MLPS, it sounds to me like a good idea for its original > design goals, but is being promoted for so many other things that > many people are confused - Does it *really* slice,

RE: MPLS,IETF, etc..

2001-09-03 Thread Natale, Robert C (Bob)
> From: Bob Braden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 1:29 PM Hi Bob, > Simplicity, in this case, seems to be in the eye of the beholder. There is certainly some universal truth in that statement. > I don't get why label swapping is any simpler than hop/hop forward

Re: MPLS,IETF, etc..

2001-09-02 Thread Bob Braden
Noel, Your definition of "simplicity" -- the number of hardware gates required -- seems overly narrow. Bob Braden

Re: MPLS,IETF, etc..

2001-09-02 Thread J. Noel Chiappa
> From: Bob Braden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I don't get why label swapping is any simpler than hop/hop forwarding. At the time when tag-switching (to give it its original name - well, actually, as someone pointed out, it was Ipsilon's product that started the trend, and tag-switching from C

Re: MPLS,IETF, etc..

2001-09-01 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:49:39 EDT, "Natale, Robert C (Bob)" said: > To really jump the tracks here (since I'm pretty much just > rambling on here anyway): It could be argued that both the > "dot com" mania and melt-down were attributable -- in large > part -- to the same mix of evangelistic and jo

Re: MPLS,IETF, etc..

2001-09-01 Thread Bob Braden
*> extremely difficult. In solving the essential problem *> it was tasked for (reducing routing control/signaling *> overhead via a more efficient marriage of (routed) L3 *> messages and (switched) L2 transports), MPLS (thanks *> to its tag switching ancestors) is, IMHO, an elegantly

Re: MPLS,IETF, etc..

2001-08-31 Thread Natale, Robert C (Bob)
Hi Abbie, >fyi >this is interesting to read >http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7805 >well what do u think The set of articles and threads behind the article you cite above reveals some of the worst possibilities in "evangelism" and in "journalism", IMHO. First, let me say that

MPLS,IETF, etc..

2001-08-31 Thread Abbie Barbir
Title: MPLS,IETF, etc.. fyi this is interesting to read http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=7805 well what do u think abbie