Isn't there any link to refer slides

2003-11-20 Thread Soohong Daniel Park
Hello Isn't there any link to refer slides ? If available, let me know it. Regards Daniel (Soohong Daniel Park) Mobile Platform Laboratory, SAMSUNG Electronics IETF IPv6 working group mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Admini

Re: [imss] Re: Reminder: IMSS Working Group last call on IPv6 over Fibre Channel Draft Ends Monday Nov 24

2003-11-20 Thread Chirayu Patel
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:29:14 -0800, "Claudio DeSanti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I understand that with IPv6 a bridge has no more the option to fragment > a too big packet, as in IPv4, but I do not believe this is an issue, > because: > - router advertisements may announce a proper MTU over a br

names for non-global addresses

2003-11-20 Thread Keith Moore
I still prefer GUPI (pronounced "guppy" like the fish) - globally unique provider-independent PUPI (pronounced "puppy" like a young dog) - probably unique provider-independent as having about the right ratio of cuteness to mnemonic power. ---

Re: Local addresses and security? (was: SL deprecation draft)

2003-11-20 Thread Andrew White
EricLKlein wrote: > This is not the first time that I have heard that someone was willing to > skip IPv6 because of the percieved pain and security threat that > standards compliance would entail. But then again these are all people > that take security and network administration very personal and

Re: [imss] Re: Reminder: IMSS Working Group last call on IPv6 over Fibre Channel Draft Ends Monday Nov 24

2003-11-20 Thread Claudio DeSanti
Hi Fred, the ~64KB MTU comes from RFC 2625 (IPv4 over Fibre Channel), and one of the goals of the IPv6 over FC specification is to keep unchanged the encapsulation technique between IPv4 and IPv6. I understand that with IPv6 a bridge has no more the option to fragment a too big packet, as in I

Re: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread Tim Chown
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 02:50:19PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Upon receipt of a router advertisement with the 'M' flag set (see > section 5.5.3 of RFC 2462), IPv6 hosts that implement DHCPv6 MUST attempt > to use DHCPv6 to obtain both IPv6 addess(es) and other configuration > information

Re: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread Tim Chown
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 11:50:29AM -0800, Bob Hinden wrote: > > Please remind me why the "in the absence of a router" text is there. I am > having a hard time thinking about a scenario where there would be a DHCP > server, but no router. The presences of a DHCP relay agent would also need > a

Re: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread Fred Templin
I havn't followed this discussion closely, but in my opinion we have no business legislating anything stronger than a MAY in relation to handling the M & O bits in received Router Advertisements. Sorry if this goes against other opinions, but that's the way I see it. Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL P

Re: Reminder: IMSS Working Group last call on IPv6 over Fibre Channel Draft Ends Monday Nov 24

2003-11-20 Thread Fred Templin
~64KB MTU L2 media, huh? Sounds interesting. Has there been any consideration given to L2 bridging between FiberChannel and other media such as Gbps and 10/100 Ethernet, or are you expecting everything between dissimilar media to go through a router? Thanks - Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] Elizabeth Rodri

I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2013-update-02.txt

2003-11-20 Thread Internet-Drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Version 6 Working Group Working Group of the IETF. Title : Management Information Base for the User Datagram Protocol (UDP) Author(s) : B. Fenner

RE: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread Margaret . Wasserman
> => In 6.2.7 : > >Routers SHOULD inspect valid Router Advertisements sent by other >routers and verify that the routers are advertising consistent >information on a link. Detected inconsistencies indicate > that one or >more routers might be misconfigured and SHOULD be logged

Re: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread Bob Hinden
John, For those IPv6 nodes that implement DHCP, those nodes MUST use DHCP upon the receipt of a Router Advertisement with the 'M' flag set (see section 5.5.3 of RFC2462). In addition, in the absence of a router, IPv6 Nodes that implement DHCP MUST attempt to use DHCP. to: Nodes tha

RE: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread Margaret . Wasserman
> to: > >Nodes that implement DHCP MUST use DHCP upon the receipt of a >Router Advertisement with the 'M' flag set (see section 5.5.3 of >RFC2462). In addition, in the absence of a router, >IPv6 Nodes that implement DHCP MUST attempt to use DHCP. In this >context, 'use DH

Reminder: IMSS Working Group last call on IPv6 over Fibre Channel Draft Ends Monday Nov 24

2003-11-20 Thread Elizabeth Rodriguez
This is a reminder that the FC over IPv6 draft is currently in IMSS working group last call. The last call period ends on November 24 at 9pm EST. The draft may be found at www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-imss-ipv6-over-fibre-channel-00.txt A link to the draft may also be found at the bo

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RE: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread Ralph Droms
Pekka - The specific text is ambiguous ... however, in John's message of 11/20, there is a sentence later in the same paragraph: In this context, 'use DHCP' means trying to obtain only other configuration information through DHCP, not address(es). That sentence clarifies the text I quoted. -

Re: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread Tim Chown
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 09:27:27AM -0500, Soliman Hesham wrote: > > => In 6.2.7 : > >Routers SHOULD inspect valid Router Advertisements sent by other >routers and verify that the routers are advertising consistent >information on a link. Detected inconsistencies indicate that one or

RE: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread Ralph Droms
Hesham, At 09:27 AM 11/20/2003 -0500, Soliman Hesham wrote: > I strongly suggest the use of "Nodes" (unqualified) in the text > about the 'O' bit: => To be clear, I was suggesting substitusting "Nodes (acting as hosts)". I'm not sure if you're replying to my comment or in general. Thanks for t

RE: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Ralph Droms wrote: > I strongly suggest the use of "Nodes" (unqualified) in the text > about the 'O' bit: > > IPv6 Nodes that implement DHCP, MUST use DHCP upon > the receipt of a Router Advertisement with the 'O' flag set (see > section 5.5.3 of RFC2462). > > The

RE: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread Soliman Hesham
> I strongly suggest the use of "Nodes" (unqualified) in the text > about the 'O' bit: => To be clear, I was suggesting substitusting "Nodes (acting as hosts)". I'm not sure if you're replying to my comment or in general. > However, there is some question about any discussion of "nodes" and

RE: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread Ralph Droms
I strongly suggest the use of "Nodes" (unqualified) in the text about the 'O' bit: IPv6 Nodes that implement DHCP, MUST use DHCP upon the receipt of a Router Advertisement with the 'O' flag set (see section 5.5.3 of RFC2462). There is no reason a router can't use DHCPv6 for other configura

RE: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread Soliman Hesham
> > Is there a reason to differentiate between nodes acting as > hosts here, but > not in the paragraph describing the behavior in response to > the 'M' bit? => In general, unless previously discussed and rejected for some reason, I'd globally: s/Nodes (acting as hosts)/host It's a bit c

Re: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread Ralph Droms
Comments (mostly editorial) in line... - Ralph At 11:12 AM 11/20/2003 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Please ignore previous mails on this topic, here is the proposed text: thanks, John > > In addition, in the absence of a router, > >IPv6 Nodes that implement DHCP MUST attempt to

Re: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
> Please ignore previous mails on this topic, here is the proposed text: the change has to be synchronized with 2462bis effort, am i right? itojun IETF IPv6 working group mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrative R

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Re: Issue 29: AD REVIEW: IPv6 Node Requirements

2003-11-20 Thread Claudio Lori
Jari Arkko wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The 2nd paragraph in 4.6 looks like: If an application is going to support Source-Specific Multicast, it "SHOULD support MLDv2 but MAY support MLDv1 and conform to the Source-Specific Multicast overview document [RFC3569]; refer to Sourc

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2003-11-20 Thread Claudio Lori
Jean-Jacques Pansiot wrote: Jari Arkko wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The 2nd paragraph in 4.6 looks like: If an application is going to support Source-Specific Multicast, it "SHOULD support MLDv2 but MAY support MLDv1 and conform to the Source-Specific Multicast overview documen

Re: Issue 29: AD REVIEW: IPv6 Node Requirements

2003-11-20 Thread Brian Haberman
I agree with Jari's proposed text. Brian Jari Arkko wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The 2nd paragraph in 4.6 looks like: If an application is going to support Source-Specific Multicast, it "SHOULD support MLDv2 but MAY support MLDv1 and conform to the Source-Specific Multicast ov

Re: Issue 29: AD REVIEW: IPv6 Node Requirements

2003-11-20 Thread Jean-Jacques Pansiot
Jari Arkko wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The 2nd paragraph in 4.6 looks like: If an application is going to support Source-Specific Multicast, it "SHOULD support MLDv2 but MAY support MLDv1 and conform to the Source-Specific Multicast overview document [RFC3569]; refer to Source

Re: Issue 29: AD REVIEW: IPv6 Node Requirements

2003-11-20 Thread Jari Arkko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The 2nd paragraph in 4.6 looks like: If an application is going to support Source-Specific Multicast, it "SHOULD support MLDv2 but MAY support MLDv1 and conform to the Source-Specific Multicast overview document [RFC3569]; refer to Source-Specific Multicast

Re: Issue 29: AD REVIEW: IPv6 Node Requirements

2003-11-20 Thread Brian Haberman
John, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, The 2nd paragraph in 4.6 looks like: If an application is going to support Source-Specific Multicast, it "SHOULD support MLDv2 but MAY support MLDv1 and conform to the Source-Specific Multicast overview document [RFC3569]; refer to Source-Specific M

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2003-11-20 Thread Dag Veierod
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20. november 2003 09:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text Hi All, I forgot other text that Pekka suggested, here is all of the te

Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text (ignore previous mails)

2003-11-20 Thread john . loughney
Hi all, Please ignore previous mails on this topic, here is the proposed text: thanks, John > > In addition, in the absence of a router, > >IPv6 Nodes that implement DHCP MUST attempt to use DHCP. > > > > ==> what does "in the absence of a router" mean? maybe this needs to be > > made sl

RE: Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text

2003-11-20 Thread john . loughney
Hi All, I forgot other text that Pekka suggested, here is all of the text: reword: For those IPv6 nodes that implement DHCP, those nodes MUST use DHCP upon the receipt of a Router Advertisement with the 'M' flag set (see section 5.5.3 of RFC2462). In addition, in the absence of a route

Node Req: Issue31: DHCPv6 text

2003-11-20 Thread john . loughney
Hi all, Pekka Savola raised a few editorial fixes on the node requirements, but this is somewhat more substantial, so I'd like to see if the WG is OK with it. reword: For those IPv6 nodes that implement DHCP, those nodes MUST use DHCP upon the receipt of a Router Advertisement with the 'M'

RE: Issue 29: AD REVIEW: IPv6 Node Requirements

2003-11-20 Thread john . loughney
Hi all, The 2nd paragraph in 4.6 looks like: If an application is going to support Source-Specific Multicast, it "SHOULD support MLDv2 but MAY support MLDv1 and conform to the Source-Specific Multicast overview document [RFC3569]; refer to Source-Specific Multicast architecture document fo

RE: Node Req. Issue 28: Security Considerations

2003-11-20 Thread john . loughney
Jari, > >>>In the IPsec section, you mention that other security issues > >>>will be covered in the Security Considerations section, but > >>>I don't see any issues here... > > There used to be some things, but they got removed because > people felt that those things belong to the individual >

Issue 30: MLDv1 vs MLDv2 text

2003-11-20 Thread john . loughney
Assigned as issue 30. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ext > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 November, 2003 07:45 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Issue 29: AD REVIEW: IPv6 Node Requirements >

RE: Issue 29: AD REVIEW: IPv6 Node Requirements

2003-11-20 Thread john . loughney
Jean-Jacques, > I think that running MLDv1 on a host has consequences on other hosts > on the same link : if a host send a MLDv1 report for a group G, > then the router (Querier) must run in MLDv1 compatibility mode. > In effect, this prevents other hosts on the same link to use MLDv2 > and sour

Re: SL deprecation draft

2003-11-20 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Eric, Take your argument to the people opposing the Hain/Templin draft, because your point is clearly made in that document. Brian EricLKlein wrote: > > Margaret.Wasserman wrote > > > I have been speaking to different > > > companies here in Israel, and the basic answer is that if I > > > ca