Deletion of auto configured link local address

2004-03-18 Thread Suvendu M
Hi, I have a doubt regarding deletion of auto configured link local address. We know that whenever a IPv6 node comes it comes up with a link local address (addr1). Now say I manually configure another link local address (addr2) on that interface (its possible if I am not wrong). Now can I delete

Re: updates to IPv6 over PPP spec.

2004-03-18 Thread srihari varada
Dear All: Provided below is the *ratified *input received from the IPv6 community on the IPv6 over PPP spec. The modifications will be made as per the recommendations. * Relax the recommendation on the disabling of DAD, if the IPv6CP negotiates interface identifier with the peer "The

Re: simpler prefix delegation

2004-03-18 Thread Alain Durand
On Mar 18, 2004, at 8:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18 March 2004, Pekka Savola wrote: The fact that there is a solution out there, which fits the needs of some users, does not mean that there can not (or should not) be a different kind of solution which would seem to be much more appropriate

I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-prefix-delegation-requirement-04.txt

2004-03-18 Thread Internet-Drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Version 6 Working Group Working Group of the IETF. Title : Requirements for IPv6 prefix delegation Author(s) : S. Miyakawa, R. Droms Filename

RE: simpler prefix delegation

2004-03-18 Thread BINET David FTRD/DMI/CAE
Actually, I do not understand very well why we need a new prefix delegation mechanism. The assumptions to justify such work are the complexity of DHCPv6-PD protocol and the fact that all the problems in the world are not necessarily solved by DHCPv6 but I do not see in the thread some real reasons

Re: ASN-based prefixes for leaf ASes

2004-03-18 Thread Bill Manning
% On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Stephen Sprunk wrote: % > Thoughts? % Been there, done that, gotten flamed about it :-). Not flamed, simply pointed out that this was the method used and documented for preliminary IPv6 address delegations ... before the creation of the 6bone. The ex

RE: simpler prefix delegation

2004-03-18 Thread matthew . ford
On 18 March 2004, Pekka Savola wrote: > On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Ralph Droms wrote: > > Is there interest in expending any more of the IETF's resources > > reopening a problem for which we have rough consensus on a > solution, > > published specifications and running code? > > You say that carefull

Re: simpler prefix delegation

2004-03-18 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Ralph Droms wrote: > Is there interest in expending any more of the IETF's resources > reopening a problem for which we have rough consensus on a solution, > published specifications and running code? You say that carefully, but still giving an impression as if rough consensus

Re: simpler prefix delegation

2004-03-18 Thread Ralph Droms
For the IPv6 WG - let's cut to the chase. Is there interest in expending any more of the IETF's resources reopening a problem for which we have rough consensus on a solution, published specifications and running code? We have lots of important problems that have *no* solution, yet; let's move on

Re: simpler prefix delegation

2004-03-18 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Ole Troan wrote: > >> Haberman's ICMP prefix delegation draft initiated the IPv6 W.G's work > >> on prefix delegation. it pretty soon became clear that we were > >> reinventing DHCP, so instead of developing a new DHCP lookalike, we > >> decided to reuse the existing DHCP infra

Re: simpler prefix delegation

2004-03-18 Thread Laurent . Clevy
Hi, We are working on the subject since last year and have a first prototype that does prefix delegation and global address configuration on a simple IPv6 network. Here follows some thoughts that could help, I hope. Pekka Savola wrote: Hi, This started from me looking at draft-bykim-ipv6-hpd-

Re: simpler prefix delegation

2004-03-18 Thread Ole Troan
Pekka, > [Ralph:] > . >> The CLI sets up a pool of prefixes for delegation(1), associates the prefix >> pool with other DHCPv6 server configuration information (2) and enables the >> server on an interface (3). In this example, there is no customer >> identification or authentication (which i

Re: simpler prefix delegation

2004-03-18 Thread Pekka Savola
Reponding to both you and Ralph. [Ralph:] . > The CLI sets up a pool of prefixes for delegation(1), associates the prefix > pool with other DHCPv6 server configuration information (2) and enables the > server on an interface (3). In this example, there is no customer > identification or authe

Re: simpler prefix delegation

2004-03-18 Thread Ole Troan
Pekka, > This started from me looking at draft-bykim-ipv6-hpd-01.txt, what it > was before that, DHCPv6 + PD, a few proposals at v6ops for integrated > prefix delegation, etc.. -- I couldn't help thinking, "there must be > an easier way to delegate an IPv6 prefix in the simplest setups (e.g., > wh

Re: simpler prefix delegation

2004-03-18 Thread Ralph Droms
Pekka, We have some experience with the DHCPv6 spec that is useful in evaluating its complexity. There are roughly 6-10 full implementations of DHCPv6, including prefix delegation, address assignment and stateless. We performed interoperability testing of 6 or so implementations last year at TAHI

ND-proxy applicability and loop-prevention

2004-03-18 Thread Pekka Savola
Hi, We've discussed ND-proxy applicability in home networks for "informal prefix sharing" (see draft-ietf-v6ops-unmaneval-01.txt). I thought it might be good idea to try to move some of the discussion on IPv6 WG list where ND-proxy is being specified. Below... On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Erik Nordm

Re: simpler prefix delegation

2004-03-18 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Shin Miyakawa wrote: > > when v6 connectivity is obtained through a tunnel) -- DHCPv6 is way > > too heavy-weight". > > "way too Heavy Weight" is not well-defined. > Please explain a bit more how you decide this. Pekka ? > > When we dicuss about measurement, we should be math

Re: simpler prefix delegation

2004-03-18 Thread Shin Miyakawa
> This started from me looking at draft-bykim-ipv6-hpd-01.txt, what it > was before that, DHCPv6 + PD, a few proposals at v6ops for integrated > prefix delegation, etc.. -- I couldn't help thinking, "there must be > an easier way to delegate an IPv6 prefix in the simplest setups (e.g., > when v6 co

simpler prefix delegation

2004-03-18 Thread Pekka Savola
Hi, This started from me looking at draft-bykim-ipv6-hpd-01.txt, what it was before that, DHCPv6 + PD, a few proposals at v6ops for integrated prefix delegation, etc.. -- I couldn't help thinking, "there must be an easier way to delegate an IPv6 prefix in the simplest setups (e.g., when v6 connect