RE: SHOULD or MAY for invoking DHCP services using M/O flags

2004-08-20 Thread Ralph Droms
I disagree with this wording. In particular, the Solicit/... exchange is *not* limites to address configuration. The Information-Request/Reply message exchange is not "Stateful DHCPv6". "the DHCPv6 Server" might be misleading as there can be more than one DHCPv6 server. I don't think the purpose

RE: SHOULD or MAY for invoking DHCP services using M/O flags

2004-08-20 Thread S. Daniel Park
My suggestion: M = ON means only address configuration is learned from the DHCPv6 Server via Solicit/Advertise/Request/Reply (or Solicit/Reply if Rapid Commit is enabled) message exchanges which is assumed to be Stateful DHCPv6. O = ON means only configuration information (not requiring the assi

Re: ICMPv6: Rate Limiting Configuration Per-Node or Per-Interfaces

2004-08-20 Thread Pekka Savola
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004, Brian Haberman wrote: > > (f) Finally, an IPv6 node MUST limit the rate of ICMPv6 error > > messages it originates in order to limit the processing at the > > node and bandwidth and forwarding costs incurred on the > > network by originating ICMPv6

[rfc2462bis #597] multicast/MLD reference issues

2004-08-20 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
(I tried to send this through the issue tracker, but it appears to have failed...) Proposed Resolution: - add a reference to RFC3810 as well as to RFC2710 - make a small modification to the 5th paragraph of section 5.4.2 to: Note that when a node joins a multicast address, it typically sends a

[rfc2462bis #596] definition of "multicast-capable"

2004-08-20 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
(I tried to send this through the issue tracker, but it appears to have failed...) Proposed resolution: - replace "multicast interface" with "multicast-capable interface" in Section 5.1 - modify the definition of "link" in Section 2 a little bit like: link - a communication facility or medium

[rfc2462bis #595] mixture of stateless-addrconf-specific and other general topics

2004-08-20 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
(I tried to send this through the issue tracker, but it appears to have failed...) I'm going to reject this issue. See the following links for more details: http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg03383.html http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg03410.html if anyon

[psg.com #597] multicast/MLD reference issues

2004-08-20 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
Proposed Resolution: - add a reference to RFC3810 as well as to RFC2710 - make a small modification to the 5th paragraph of section 5.4.2 to: Note that when a node joins a multicast address, it typically sends a Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) report message [RFC2710] for the multica

[psg.com #597] multicast/MLD reference issues

2004-08-20 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
Proposed Resolution: - add a reference to RFC3810 as well as to RFC2710 - make a small modification to the 5th paragraph of section 5.4.2 to: Note that when a node joins a multicast address, it typically sends a Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) report message [RFC2710] for the multica

[psg.com #597] multicast/MLD reference issues

2004-08-20 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
Proposed Resolution: - add a reference to RFC3810 as well as to RFC2710 - make a small modification to the 5th paragraph of section 5.4.2 to: Note that when a node joins a multicast address, it typically sends a Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) report message [RFC2710] for the multica

[psg.com #597] multicast/MLD reference issues

2004-08-20 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
Proposed Resolution: - add a reference to RFC3810 as well as to RFC2710 - make a small modification to the 5th paragraph of section 5.4.2 to: Note that when a node joins a multicast address, it typically sends a Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) report message [RFC2710] for the multica

[psg.com #596] definition of "multicast-capable"

2004-08-20 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
Proposed resolution: - replace "multicast interface" with "multicast-capable interface" in Section 5.1 - modify the definition of "link" in Section 2 a little bit like: link - a communication facility or medium over which nodes can communicate at the link layer, i.e., the layer immedia

[psg.com #596] definition of "multicast-capable"

2004-08-20 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
Proposed resolution: - replace "multicast interface" with "multicast-capable interface" in Section 5.1 - modify the definition of "link" in Section 2 a little bit like: link - a communication facility or medium over which nodes can communicate at the link layer, i.e., the layer immedia

[psg.com #596] definition of "multicast-capable"

2004-08-20 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
Proposed resolution: - replace "multicast interface" with "multicast-capable interface" in Section 5.1 - modify the definition of "link" in Section 2 a little bit like: link - a communication facility or medium over which nodes can communicate at the link layer, i.e., the layer immedia

[psg.com #596] definition of "multicast-capable"

2004-08-20 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
Proposed resolution: - replace "multicast interface" with "multicast-capable interface" in Section 5.1 - modify the definition of "link" in Section 2 a little bit like: link - a communication facility or medium over which nodes can communicate at the link layer, i.e., the layer immedia

[psg.com #595] mixture of stateless-addrconf-specific and other general topics

2004-08-20 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
I'm going to reject this issue. See the following links for more details: http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg03383.html http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg03410.html if anyone of you still have an objection, please speak up ASAP. ---

Re: SHOULD or MAY for invoking DHCP services using M/O flags

2004-08-20 Thread Brian Haberman
Tim Chown wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 10:34:39AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following the discussions, it isn't entirely clear to me why we could need to open this issue. I think that there is concensus for keeping it as is (as described in Christian's mail). Am I missing something? My im

[psg.com #595] mixture of stateless-addrconf-specific and other general topics

2004-08-20 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
I'm going to reject this issue. See the following links for more details: http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg03383.html http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg03410.html if anyone of you still have an objection, please speak up ASAP. ---

[psg.com #595] mixture of stateless-addrconf-specific and other general topics

2004-08-20 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
I'm going to reject this issue. See the following links for more details: http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg03383.html http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg03410.html if anyone of you still have an objection, please speak up ASAP. ---

[psg.com #595] mixture of stateless-addrconf-specific and other general topics

2004-08-20 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
I'm going to reject this issue. See the following links for more details: http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg03383.html http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg03410.html if anyone of you still have an objection, please speak up ASAP. ---

Re: [2462bis issue 597] multicast/MLD reference issues

2004-08-20 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:50:06 +0200, > "Gerrit van Niekerk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Your suggestion looks basically fine, but I want to check one minor >> point: >> >> > Note that when a node joins a multicast address, it typically sends a >> > Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) re

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2462bis-05.txt

2004-08-20 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:22:17 +0100, > "Elwyn Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Yes - there are 9 instances in the body and 1 in the abstract and non-local > would be right for all these places I believe. Hmm, the changes are not small and could make the resulting text a bit vague, bu

Re: ICMPv6: Rate Limiting Configuration Per-Node or Per-Interfaces

2004-08-20 Thread Brian Haberman
Pekka Savola wrote: On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think everyone agrees that per-interface configuration would be a perfect solution and will provide a fine grained control to the user. Is there anyone who disagrees with this ? (Pekka ??) I find it very useful. My objection to t

Re: M=1/O=0 is not valid in full 3315 ?

2004-08-20 Thread Tim Chown
On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 03:11:42PM -0400, Bound, Jim wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Hints Node Reqs I agree. Hints in others I never agreed to at all. > That does not mean that is not the case but lets be clear here people > are running agendas and that is a fact. DHCPv6 will be used by users > and requir

Re: SHOULD or MAY for invoking DHCP services using M/O flags

2004-08-20 Thread Tim Chown
On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 10:34:39AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Following the discussions, it isn't entirely clear to me why we > could need to open this issue. I think that there is concensus > for keeping it as is (as described in Christian's mail). > > Am I missing something? My impre

Re: M=1/O=0 is not valid in full 3315 ?

2004-08-20 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:10:07 -0400, > "Bound, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > It is relevant completely to users and implementation your wrong. Just for some clarification since I was perhaps not very clear: When I said >> Fine, but please note that this particular point is not at

RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2462bis-05.txt

2004-08-20 Thread Elwyn Davies
Title: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2462bis-05.txt Yes - there are 9 instances in the body and 1 in the abstract and non-local would be right for all these places I believe. Regards, Elwyn > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 19

RE: SHOULD or MAY for invoking DHCP services using M/O flags

2004-08-20 Thread S. Daniel Park
> Following the discussions, it isn't entirely clear to me why we > could need to open this issue. I think that there is concensus > for keeping it as is (as described in Christian's mail). > > Am I missing something? Hi John, I don't think you are missing anything. Besides, I don't have a hard

RE: SHOULD or MAY for invoking DHCP services using M/O flags

2004-08-20 Thread john . loughney
Daniel, > (slightly changing the subject of this thread to follow up > what we saying easily) > > As I indicated previous mail, original intent of M/O flags document > is same as what Christian said. This intensity of this document was > originally from the 2462-bis (IMO) and even Node Requirem

SHOULD or MAY for invoking DHCP services using M/O flags

2004-08-20 Thread S. Daniel Park
(slightly changing the subject of this thread to follow up what we saying easily) As I indicated previous mail, original intent of M/O flags document is same as what Christian said. This intensity of this document was originally from the 2462-bis (IMO) and even Node Requirement as well. But, as