Re: [rfc2462bis] config consistency vs secure ND/DHCPv6

2005-04-28 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:37:39 +0300, > Jari Arkko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Does this simple answer address your question? If not, please explain >> the point (that I could not understand). If it does, do you want to >> update the draft regarding this issue? E.g., do you want to em

Re: [rfc2462bis] reference to SEND from 2462bis

2005-04-28 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:40:44 -0400, > Russ Housley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Looks good to me. Okay, thanks. Since some others also agreed with this approach (and there has been no objection), I'll soon close this issue with the proposed resolution.

[psg.com #922] Creation of link-local addresses due dynamic link change

2005-04-28 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
> Comment from Russ Housley: > > I suggest adding another event to section 5.3. Consider an event > that indicates that the physical network connectivity may have > changed. Such events include a carrier down/carrier sequence on > an Ethernet NIC, a change of SSID on an 802.11 network, o

[psg.com #922] Creation of link-local addresses due dynamic link change

2005-04-28 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
> Comment from Russ Housley: > > I suggest adding another event to section 5.3. Consider an event > that indicates that the physical network connectivity may have > changed. Such events include a carrier down/carrier sequence on > an Ethernet NIC, a change of SSID on an 802.11 network, o

[psg.com #924] normative reference to 2461bis

2005-04-28 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
There has been no comment on this issue. I'll simply close it without taking any action on the document (as proposed below). > In your IESG comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2462bis-07.txt, you said: > > > There is a lot of normative dependency on the recycling DS of > > Neighbory Discovery which

[psg.com #924] normative reference to 2461bis

2005-04-28 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
There has been no comment on this issue. I'll simply close it without taking any action on the document (as proposed below). > In your IESG comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2462bis-07.txt, you said: > > > There is a lot of normative dependency on the recycling DS of > > Neighbory Discovery which

[psg.com #924] normative reference to 2461bis

2005-04-28 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
There has been no comment on this issue. I'll simply close it without taking any action on the document (as proposed below). > In your IESG comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2462bis-07.txt, you said: > > > There is a lot of normative dependency on the recycling DS of > > Neighbory Discovery which

[psg.com #924] normative reference to 2461bis

2005-04-28 Thread rt+ipv6-2462bis
There has been no comment on this issue. I'll simply close it without taking any action on the document (as proposed below). > In your IESG comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2462bis-07.txt, you said: > > > There is a lot of normative dependency on the recycling DS of > > Neighbory Discovery which

Re: [rfc2462bis] Creation of LL addresses due to dynamic link change

2005-04-28 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:43:35 -0400, > Russ Housley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Looks okay to me, with one change: > s/accept point/access point/ Ah, yes, of course. Thanks! JINMEI, Tatuya Communicatio

Re: [rfc2462bis] reference to SEND from 2462bis

2005-04-28 Thread Jari Arkko
Brian Haberman wrote: It may be close to the border, but I don't think it crosses it. The reader does not have to understand SEND in order to implement or understand this specification. However, if we determine that a normative reference is needed, we can pursue a variance on the down-ref issue.

IPv6 WG Consensus declared: draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-01.txt

2005-04-28 Thread Brian Haberman
All, Based on the list discussion and comments received privately, the chairs see a strong consensus forming on the centrally- allocated ULA document. At this time, we will not continue work on this draft. We will monitor the use and issues raised with the locally-assigned ULAs. If issues w

Re: AW: loop-back supression & duplicate address dedection

2005-04-28 Thread Brian Haberman
Peter, On Apr 28, 2005, at 7:16, Grubmair Peter wrote: Ideas something like this have been proposed several times. I don't remember the conclusion of the discussion on each one of them, but, in any event, this is clearly beyond the scope of rfc2462bis. OK, Another suggestion. Instead of turning of

Re: [rfc2462bis] reference to SEND from 2462bis

2005-04-28 Thread Brian Haberman
On Apr 28, 2005, at 5:37, Jari Arkko wrote: JINMEI Tatuya wrote: 1. change the references to RFC2402 (IPsec-AH) to references to RFC3971(SEND), and This is the right thing to do. I agree as well. 2. categorize the new reference as informative Ok, but a bit bordline case, perhaps. Is this the onl

Re: [rfc2462bis] Creation of LL addresses due to dynamic link change

2005-04-28 Thread Russ Housley
Looks okay to me, with one change: s/accept point/access point/ Russ At 04:21 AM 4/28/2005, JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= wrote: Hello, In your IESG comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2462bis-07.txt, you said: > I suggest adding another event to section 5.3. Consider an ev

Re: 6LSA IETF Drafts

2005-04-28 Thread Adrian Farrel
Jim, Thanks for the heads-up. Please ensure that any BOF you hold does not conflict with either the MPLS or CCAMP working group meetins. I predict that many people will wish to attend all three meetings. After a preliminary reading of draft-chakravorty-6lsa-01.txt it seems to me that what you ar

Re: [rfc2462bis] reference to SEND from 2462bis

2005-04-28 Thread Russ Housley
Looks good to me. Russ At 04:10 AM 4/28/2005, JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= wrote: Hello, In your IESG comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2462bis-07.txt, you said: > RFC 3756 says that IPsec really does not work for neighbor > discovery. Even if it does work in some cases,

AW: loop-back supression & duplicate address dedection

2005-04-28 Thread Grubmair Peter
> Ideas something like this have been proposed several times. I don't > remember the conclusion of the discussion on each one of them, but, in > any event, this is clearly beyond the scope of rfc2462bis. OK, Another suggestion. Instead of turning off loop-back supression of WLAN, Another solutio

Re: [rfc2462bis] reference to SEND from 2462bis

2005-04-28 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:37:44 +0300, > Jari Arkko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> 2. categorize the new reference as informative >> > Ok, but a bit bordline case, perhaps. Is this the > only way to have a reference to SEND and advance/keep > the current 2462 standard level? Do you have an

Re: [rfc2462bis] config consistency vs secure ND/DHCPv6

2005-04-28 Thread Jari Arkko
JINMEI Tatuya wrote: Was there an analysis of the configuration consistency rule (section 5.6) of accepting the most recent information, while trying to secure both DHCPv6 and ND/addrconf (SEND)? As far as I know, there was no such analysis. But honestly speaking, I don't understand the poin

Re: [rfc2462bis] reference to SEND from 2462bis

2005-04-28 Thread Jari Arkko
JINMEI Tatuya wrote: 1. change the references to RFC2402 (IPsec-AH) to references to RFC3971(SEND), and This is the right thing to do. 2. categorize the new reference as informative Ok, but a bit bordline case, perhaps. Is this the only way to have a reference to SEND and advance/keep the c

Re: loop-back surpression & duplicate address dedection

2005-04-28 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:50:23 +0200, > Grubmair Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On page 25 of 2662bis 07 draft the difficulties for loopback and dad > are explainded. > Maybe dedection of loopbacks (of NS) could be supported by adding > a new option either as NS option or as destinatio

loop-back surpression & duplicate address dedection

2005-04-28 Thread Grubmair Peter
On page 25 of 2662bis 07 draft the difficulties for loopback and dad are explainded. Maybe dedection of loopbacks (of NS) could be supported by adding a new option either as NS option or as destination header option. This option should carry a random identifier of sufficient len

[rfc2462bis] Creation of LL addresses due to dynamic link change

2005-04-28 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
Hello, In your IESG comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2462bis-07.txt, you said: > I suggest adding another event to section 5.3. Consider an event > that indicates that the physical network connectivity may have > changed. Such events include a carrier down/carrier sequence on > an Ethernet NIC, a

[rfc2462bis] reference to SEND from 2462bis

2005-04-28 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / $B?@L@C#:H(B
Hello, In your IESG comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2462bis-07.txt, you said: > RFC 3756 says that IPsec really does not work for neighbor > discovery. Even if it does work in some cases, there is not > enough detail in this document to say how to use it. SEND > is the answer, of course. Ho

[rfc2462bis] config consistency vs secure ND/DHCPv6

2005-04-28 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
Hello, In your IESG comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2462bis-07.txt, you said: > Was there an analysis of the configuration consistency rule > (section 5.6) of accepting the most recent information, while > trying to secure both DHCPv6 and ND/addrconf (SEND)? As far as I know, there was no such an