Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)

2007-01-13 Thread Masataka Ohta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>There are also some nasty interactions between multicast and power >>saving. To save power, the stations sleep most of the time, wake up >>occasionally, and poll the server for any queued data. For multicast, >>you have to either guarantee that all stations wake up at th

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2007-01-13 Thread Rob Austein
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Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)

2007-01-13 Thread bmanning
On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 11:32:53AM -0800, Christian Huitema wrote: > > > I really do not understand you. Try in French :-) Because, > obviously, > > > if it is unicast, it is not multicast :-) > > > > unicast is a degenerative case of multicast. > > Bill, this is emphatically not true for hig

RE: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)

2007-01-13 Thread Christian Huitema
> > I really do not understand you. Try in French :-) Because, obviously, > > if it is unicast, it is not multicast :-) > > unicast is a degenerative case of multicast. Bill, this is emphatically not true for high speed wireless links, such as the upcoming IEEE 802.11n standard. In high s

Re: DNS opcode DISCOVER [Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)]

2007-01-13 Thread Jeroen Massar
Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: > I still don't understand what the plan is. > > There is a lot of Internet broadband content distribution > going on today. I do not see where this proposal fits in. "Content Distribution" in the form of Akamai and other such solutions are GREAT for Big Companies(tm)

RE: DNS opcode DISCOVER [Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)]

2007-01-13 Thread Ted Hardie
At 10:43 AM -0800 1/12/07, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: >I am really confused here. > >First, I know that multicast has a base in the IETF. Is there at this point >any real prospect of widespread use? Multicast violates the principle of >keeping the core of the Internet as simple and unchanging a

RE: DNS opcode DISCOVER [Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)]

2007-01-13 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
I am really confused here. First, I know that multicast has a base in the IETF. Is there at this point any real prospect of widespread use? Multicast violates the principle of keeping the core of the Internet as simple and unchanging as possible. Multicast is also the amplification mechanism to

RE: DNS opcode DISCOVER [Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)]

2007-01-13 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
I still don't understand what the plan is. There is a lot of Internet broadband content distribution going on today. I do not see where this proposal fits in. Is this the choice of the right tool or 'have hammer, will use it' or 'have always wanted this particular hammer and looking for excuse

Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)

2007-01-13 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 11:03:44PM +, Paul Vixie wrote: > > do you want the code (8.1.2 based and haq'ed into 9.3.1 ) or do you > > want to start fresh? > > put both up for ftp and share the url's here, and isc among others will take > a look at them. i think i will defer for

Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)

2007-01-13 Thread bmanning
On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 09:28:21AM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 05:41:26PM +0100, > Pars Mutaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > a message of 31 lines which said: > > > > Again, *read* draft-ietf-dnsext-mdns-47.txt, the use of unicast is > > > clearly possible (section