Re: Neighbor Discovery and PPP links

2007-07-18 Thread Ole Troan
>> > Then you will fail in cases like the one I noted above, and you > won't be >> > RFC compliant. RFC2461 requires NUD on _all_ links. (I don't think >> > anyone is arguing it doesn't.) >> >> as long as we also agree that it is perfectly valid to operate p2p > links >> with NUD turned off. > >

RE: Neighbor Discovery and PPP links

2007-07-18 Thread Dave Thaler
> -Original Message- > From: Ole Troan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:16 PM > To: Dave Thaler > Cc: Hemant Singh (shemant); JINMEI Tatuya / ; James Carlson; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Neighbor Discovery and PPP links > > Dave, > > >

Re: Neighbor Discovery and PPP links

2007-07-18 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 19-jul-2007, at 1:15, Ole Troan wrote: Then you will fail in cases like the one I noted above, and you won't be RFC compliant. RFC2461 requires NUD on _all_ links. (I don't think anyone is arguing it doesn't.) as long as we also agree that it is perfectly valid to operate p2p links w

Re: Neighbor Discovery and PPP links

2007-07-18 Thread Ole Troan
Dave, > Then you will fail in cases like the one I noted above, and you won't be > RFC compliant. RFC2461 requires NUD on _all_ links. (I don't think > anyone is arguing it doesn't.) as long as we also agree that it is perfectly valid to operate p2p links with NUD turned off. /ot

RE: Neighbor Discovery and PPP links

2007-07-18 Thread Dave Thaler
Hemant Singh writes: > Ole and Dave agreed upon: "for PPP links we always know the link-layer > address". I too agree with that. Why issue an NS to resolve an address > on such a link when the address is always known? > > As for NUD, 2461 NUD sections also say if upper layer protocols can > determ

Re: Neighbor Discovery and PPP links

2007-07-18 Thread Tim Hartrick
All, On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 12:20 -0400, James Carlson wrote: > > The part I support is clarifying the document. I don't think I > support changing the functionality described in the document. > I agree with this sentiment. It is reasonable for an implementation of IPv6 over PPP to restrict

RE: Neighbor Discovery and PPP links

2007-07-18 Thread James Carlson
Hemant Singh (shemant) writes: > Ole and Dave agreed upon: "for PPP links we always know the link-layer > address". I too agree with that. Why issue an NS to resolve an address > on such a link when the address is always known? > > As for NUD, 2461 NUD sections also say if upper layer protocols ca

Re: Neighbor Discovery and PPP links

2007-07-18 Thread James Carlson
JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 writes: > At Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:35:33 -0400, > James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you're going to somehow omit ND for address resolution, but use it > > for everything else, what exactly does that look like on the wire, and > > what support in the existing RFC is

RE: Neighbor Discovery and PPP links

2007-07-18 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
Ole and Dave agreed upon: "for PPP links we always know the link-layer address". I too agree with that. Why issue an NS to resolve an address on such a link when the address is always known? As for NUD, 2461 NUD sections also say if upper layer protocols can determine reachability, NUD is not invo