Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2009-02-19 12:15, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: ... > Avoid prefix-per-host address waste: were it known a /56 could be used > to SLAAC an Ethernet interface - it would be very hard to claim there > are enough /56 prefixes to accomodate one for each mobile. Or, that is > the situation today with /

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Alex, On 18/02/09 06:01 PM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Suresh Krishnan a écrit : On 18/02/09 04:38 PM, JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 wrote: Because the specification is written that way. From a pure technical point of view, we could have introduced a new rule, e.g., "if the length of a prefix with A

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Following up my own post, detailing what I meant, and limiting my email sending rate right after :-) Saving wireless bandwidth: allow to send only one PIO in the RA instead of two. This may be useful for links with limited bandwidth which imitate the Ethernet API. (e.g. 802.15.4, 802.16). Avoid

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Mark Smith a écrit : On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:16:33 +0100 Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Mark Smith a écrit : On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:03:54 +0100 Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Dunn, Jeffrey H. a écrit : Alex, While I believe that Suresh is correct in the case of RFC 2464, I am very interested in

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 a écrit : At Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:54:37 +0100, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: - prefix P::/56 with L=1, A=0, and - prefix P::/64 with L=0, A=1 if the receiving host is fully compliant with RFC4861 and 4862. Excuse my ignorance but I don't see why putting two prefixes in the RA

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Suresh Krishnan a écrit : On 18/02/09 04:38 PM, JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 wrote: Because the specification is written that way. From a pure technical point of view, we could have introduced a new rule, e.g., "if the length of a prefix with A=1 is less than 128 - length of IID, the host should contin

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Suresh Krishnan
On 18/02/09 04:38 PM, JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 wrote: Because the specification is written that way. From a pure technical point of view, we could have introduced a new rule, e.g., "if the length of a prefix with A=1 is less than 128 - length of IID, the host should continue configuring an address w

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2009-02-19 10:38, JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 wrote: > At Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:54:37 +0100, > Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > >>> - prefix P::/56 with L=1, A=0, and >>> - prefix P::/64 with L=0, A=1 >>> >>> if the receiving host is fully compliant with RFC4861 and 4862. >> Excuse my ignorance but I don't

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Mark Smith
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:16:33 +0100 Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > Mark Smith a écrit : > > On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:03:54 +0100 Alexandru Petrescu > > wrote: > > > >> Dunn, Jeffrey H. a écrit : > >>> Alex, > >>> > >>> While I believe that Suresh is correct in the case of RFC 2464, I > >>> am very i

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:54:37 +0100, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > > - prefix P::/56 with L=1, A=0, and > > - prefix P::/64 with L=0, A=1 > > > > if the receiving host is fully compliant with RFC4861 and 4862. > > Excuse my ignorance but I don't see why putting two prefixes in the RA > when one i

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Mark Smith a écrit : On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:03:54 +0100 Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Dunn, Jeffrey H. a écrit : Alex, While I believe that Suresh is correct in the case of RFC 2464, I am very interested in the Ethernet implementation that supports non-64 bit IID. Do you have a reference for thi

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 a écrit : At Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:20:14 +0100, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: I'd think it simply breaks the standard, but I actually don't understand the point of the question in the first place. Maybe you want to explain what you're going to do with the additional 8bit space,

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Mark Smith
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:03:54 +0100 Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > Dunn, Jeffrey H. a écrit : > > Alex, > > > > While I believe that Suresh is correct in the case of RFC 2464, I am > > very interested in the Ethernet implementation that supports non-64 > > bit IID. Do you have a reference for this

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:20:14 +0100, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > > I'd think it simply breaks the standard, but I actually don't > > understand the point of the question in the first place. Maybe you > > want to explain what you're going to do with the additional 8bit > > space, and then ask othe

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 a écrit : At Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:46:29 +0100, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: I understand much discussion was about length of the IID. But this is solely about the prefix, which could be shorter than 64. Keep same IID length 64. That's effectively the same thing - if you use

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Dunn, Jeffrey H. a écrit : Alex, While I believe that Suresh is correct in the case of RFC 2464, I am very interested in the Ethernet implementation that supports non-64 bit IID. Do you have a reference for this implementation? Further, are you interested in supporting non-64 bit network pref

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:46:29 +0100, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > I understand much discussion was about length of the IID. > > But this is solely about the prefix, which could be shorter than 64. > Keep same IID length 64. That's effectively the same thing - if you use a shorter prefix to identi

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Suresh Krishnan a écrit : Hi Alex, On 18/02/09 11:56 AM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Dear 6MANers, May I comment on two things about rfc2464 IPv6 over EThernet. 4. Stateless Autoconfiguration I think a better title for this would be "Forming an IID for Ethernet". Because that's what the ma

RE: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Dunn, Jeffrey H.
Alex, While I believe that Suresh is correct in the case of RFC 2464, I am very interested in the Ethernet implementation that supports non-64 bit IID. Do you have a reference for this implementation? Further, are you interested in supporting non-64 bit network prefixes? If so, let me know offl

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 a écrit : At Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:56:43 +0100, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: An IPv6 address prefix used for stateless autoconfiguration [ACONF] of an Ethernet interface must have a length of 64 bits. I disagree with this. There's an implementation of SLAAC over Ethernet whos

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Alex, On 18/02/09 11:56 AM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Dear 6MANers, May I comment on two things about rfc2464 IPv6 over EThernet. 4. Stateless Autoconfiguration I think a better title for this would be "Forming an IID for Ethernet". Because that's what the majority of the text of the s

Re: Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:56:43 +0100, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > >An IPv6 address prefix used for stateless autoconfiguration [ACONF] > >of an Ethernet interface must have a length of 64 bits. > > I disagree with this. There's an implementation of SLAAC over Ethernet > whose prefix can

Questions about rfc2464 IPv6 over Ethernet

2009-02-18 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Dear 6MANers, May I comment on two things about rfc2464 IPv6 over EThernet. 4. Stateless Autoconfiguration I think a better title for this would be "Forming an IID for Ethernet". Because that's what the majority of the text of the section describes. And because it sounds too much as "State