Re: Node Requirements: Issue 13 - CGA/SeND support

2009-07-23 Thread Brian E Carpenter
It sounds as if somebody should be planning a SeND bake-off as a first step to understanding deployability and interoperability. Or maybe that has already happened? I do share Thomas' doubts about whether this is ready for a SHOULD though. I'm assuming that this won't be the last update of Node Re

Re: Node Requirements: Issue 13 - CGA/SeND support

2009-07-23 Thread Ana Kukec
Hi all, There are SeND implementations for Junos, Cisco IOS, and there is DoCoMo's implementation for Linux and FreeBSD. Apart from the open source SeND implementation for Linux that Sheng have mentioned, i am also working on the open source SeND implementation for all *BSDs and Mac that wil

Re: Node Requirements: Issue 13 - CGA/SeND support

2009-07-23 Thread marcelo bagnulo braun
Thomas Narten escribió: What information do we have from the real world about deployability? It would be foolish to mandate something that doesn't work well. I think these are key questions we need to think hard about. As far as I can tell, SEND has not been implemented in any

Re: Node Requirements: Issue 13 - CGA/SeND support

2009-07-23 Thread Thomas Narten
> What information do we have from the real world about deployability? > It would be foolish to mandate something that doesn't work well. I think these are key questions we need to think hard about. As far as I can tell, SEND has not been implemented in any real product or major distribution. (I

RE: Node Requirements: Issue 13 - CGA/SeND support

2009-07-23 Thread Hongyu Li
I would support this. SeND is useful in some case, but not necessary for all cases. It would be helpful to say when it is SHOULD or MAY be used. Hongyu > -Original Message- > From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Laganier, Julien > Sent: Thursday, J

RE: Node requirements: Issue 12 - status/scope of document

2009-07-23 Thread Hongyu Li
Hi Thomas, I think AS is a good idea to tell people what are prerequisites to make IPv6 works. There are already a lot of controversy in other places, e.g. BBF, on what are the subsets we must have in an IPv6 network. An AS document in IETF is very useful reference for the industry. Hongyu > -

Re: Node Requirements: Issue 13 - CGA/SeND support

2009-07-23 Thread Rémi Després
Julien, Le 23 juil. 09 à 04:59, Laganier, Julien a écrit : Secure Neighbor Discovery [RFC3971] SHOULD be supported. [RFC4861] states: Cryptographic security mechanisms for Neighbor Discovery are outside the scope of this document and are defined in [RFC3971]. Secure N

RE: Node Requirements: Issue 13 - CGA/SeND support

2009-07-23 Thread Sheng Jiang
Hi, Brian and all, We are doing an open source implementation of SeND/CGA and some extension what CSI WG is doing together with Beijing University of Post and Communication. So far, the SeND/CGA implementation has been done and proved work well through a little bit update may need. We will publish