Re: Discussion summary and next-step Re: Thoughts on address selection

2010-01-15 Thread Fred Baker
On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Dan Wing wrote: Missing a Pro that I consider significant: - Users will no longer experience multi-second connection delays due to IPv6's address selection. This means more users will leave IPv6 enabled. To me, that's the big issue. The point is to find

Re: Question: Detecting routers on a link

2010-01-15 Thread Brian Haberman
It appears from the discussion that the "network administrator" is trying to get *multiple* Linksys/equivalent systems to work together with no intervention (and potentially with multiple, independent ISPs). None of the people who I know who have such a setup with IPv4 expect this to work "out

Re: Question: Detecting routers on a link

2010-01-15 Thread Fred Baker
well, of course. The question isn't what the RFC was written for, it's what it might be used for. In this case, the "network administrator" is the person who in today's internet installs a Linksys/equivalent system in the residence/SOHO and expects to to work before they have attached to th

RE: Question: Detecting routers on a link

2010-01-15 Thread Templin, Fred L
> -Original Message- > From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Suresh Krishnan > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:12 PM > To: Ole Troan > Cc: ipv6@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Question: Detecting routers on a link > > Hi Ole, > > On 10-01-12 12:50 PM, Ol

Re: Question: Detecting routers on a link

2010-01-15 Thread Brian Haberman
Wojciech Dec (wdec) wrote: In general, reading through the ULA rfc, while there is a fair bot of talk regarding pseudo-random ULA global-id's and use along with SLAAC, there hardly is any reference to the scenario where there can be multiple global-id's per site sourced by multiple routers. Howe

RE: Discussion summary and next-step Re: Thoughts on address selection

2010-01-15 Thread Dan Wing
> -Original Message- > From: Arifumi Matsumoto [mailto:arif...@nttv6.net] > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 3:13 AM > To: IETF IPv6 Mailing List > Cc: Rémi Denis-Courmont; Dan Wing; > draft-ietf-6man-addr-select-...@tools.ietf.org; > draft-ietf-6man-addr-select-considerati...@tools.iet

Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-text-addr-representation (A Recommendation for IPv6 Address Text Representation) to Proposed Standard

2010-01-15 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the IPv6 Maintenance WG (6man) to consider the following document: - 'A Recommendation for IPv6 Address Text Representation ' as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Plea

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2010-01-15 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
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Discussion summary and next-step Re: Thoughts on address selection

2010-01-15 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi, let me summarize the discussion we had about address selection, and move on to the next-step. The discussion was about a try-and-error based mechanism proposed by Fred Baker, and the address selection design team's proposal, which is based on policy distribution. * Fred's proposal. - A host

Re: AD review of draft-ietf-6man-text-addr-representation

2010-01-15 Thread Jari Arkko
Pekka, Brian, Juergen, So, I'd actually suggest that we go for 1) or 2) but soften that a bit, like: "if it is known by some external method that the prefix includes an IPv4 address, the representation MAY print it in dotted decimal". With "external method" I'm thinking of either a co