Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2010-04-27 11:21, Suresh Krishnan wrote: > Hi Brian/Alex, > > On 10-04-26 05:42 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> On 2010-04-27 03:02, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: >>> Le 26/04/2010 14:17, Brian Haberman a écrit : All, The 6MAN chairs would like feedback from the working group on adopting

Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Shane Amante
On Apr 26, 2010, at 06:17 MDT, Brian Haberman wrote: > All, > The 6MAN chairs would like feedback from the working group on adopting > draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr as a WG item. Please send your comments/opinions > to the mailing list (or the chairs) by May 7, 2010. I support this draft being

Re: Draft-ietf-6man-text-addr-representation: usage of "::"

2010-04-26 Thread Seiichi Kawamura
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Suresh Suresh Krishnan wrote: > Hi Seiichi, > > On 10-04-26 01:27 AM, Seiichi Kawamura wrote: >> Do you think the following would work? >> I merged "4.2.2. Handling One 16 bit 0 Field" with your text >> >> 4.2.1. When to use "::" >> >>If the

Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Vishwas Manral
Hi Suresh, If you read the mail below (which I sent earlier in the day) this is what I had said too. Just reserving values will not do, we need to also define the structure otherwise it will not work. > i.e. An unknown extension header will have a known "Next Header" value but > an unknown "Speci

Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Vishwas, On 10-04-26 05:13 PM, Vishwas Manral wrote: Hi Stig, I can agree that it's good to check demand, but I think it is good to do the "future proofing" anyway. Things can then be implemented today and work correctly (as in ignoring unknown headers and still finding the transport) if ne

Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Brian/Alex, On 10-04-26 05:42 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2010-04-27 03:02, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Le 26/04/2010 14:17, Brian Haberman a écrit : All, The 6MAN chairs would like feedback from the working group on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr as a WG item. Please send your comme

Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2010-04-27 03:02, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > Le 26/04/2010 14:17, Brian Haberman a écrit : >> All, >> The 6MAN chairs would like feedback from the working group on adopting >> draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr as a WG item. Please send your >> comments/opinions to the mailing list (or the chairs) by M

Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Vishwas Manral
Hi Stig, > I can agree that it's good to check demand, but I think it is good to > do the "future proofing" anyway. Things can then be implemented today > and work correctly (as in ignoring unknown headers and still finding > the transport) if new headers are introduced later. > > An alternative a

Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Stig Venaas
Wes Beebee (wbeebee) wrote: I support this effort as I think it will "future proof" extension headers as far as stateful firewalls are concerned - but what I'm interested in is finding out how much demand for new extension headers there is out there - and what those new extension headers would be

Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Le 26/04/2010 19:57, Suresh Krishnan a écrit : Hi Alex, On 10-04-26 11:02 AM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Le 26/04/2010 14:17, Brian Haberman a écrit : All, The 6MAN chairs would like feedback from the working group on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr as a WG item. Please send your comments/

Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Jeremy, On 10-04-26 02:07 PM, Duncan, Jeremy wrote: Pretty sure all extension headers are considered payload of the IPv6 header. Check out RFC 2460. It says ESP and AH are there.. As you stated above RFC2460 does talk about the AH and ESP, but the AH spec itself contains the following t

Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Vishwas Manral
Hi Suresh, > i.e. An unknown extension header will have a known "Next Header" value but > an unknown "Specific Type" inside the GIEH and an unknown upper layer > protocol will have an unknown "Next Header" value. This need not be the case. What if two new headers are defined. Also if it is a payl

Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Vishwas, The idea is that all new IPv6 extension headers will use the same Next Header value (allocated in this draft). Anything else will be a payload/upper layer protocol. i.e. An unknown extension header will have a known "Next Header" value but an unknown "Specific Type" inside the G

Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Vishwas Manral
Hi Suresh, This brings the interesting issue, how do I know if the unknown inner header is payload vs Extension header? Thanks, Vishwas On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Suresh Krishnan wrote: > Hi Alex, > > On 10-04-26 11:02 AM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: >> >> Le 26/04/2010 14:17, Brian Haberm

Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Alex, On 10-04-26 11:02 AM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Le 26/04/2010 14:17, Brian Haberman a écrit : All, The 6MAN chairs would like feedback from the working group on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr as a WG item. Please send your comments/opinions to the mailing list (or the chairs) by M

RE: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Wes Beebee (wbeebee)
I support this effort as I think it will "future proof" extension headers as far as stateful firewalls are concerned - but what I'm interested in is finding out how much demand for new extension headers there is out there - and what those new extension headers would be. - Wes -Original Messag

Re: Draft-ietf-6man-text-addr-representation: usage of "::"

2010-04-26 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Seiichi, On 10-04-26 01:27 AM, Seiichi Kawamura wrote: Do you think the following would work? I merged "4.2.2. Handling One 16 bit 0 Field" with your text 4.2.1. When to use "::" If the address contains at least two consecutive 16-bit 0 fields, "::" MUST be used to compress consecuti

Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Le 26/04/2010 14:17, Brian Haberman a écrit : All, The 6MAN chairs would like feedback from the working group on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr as a WG item. Please send your comments/opinions to the mailing list (or the chairs) by May 7, 2010. Comments... 3. Backward Compatibility T

Re: Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Vishwas Manral
Hi, I support the effort. Thanks, Vishwas On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Brian Haberman wrote: > All, >     The 6MAN chairs would like feedback from the working group on adopting > draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr as a WG item.  Please send your comments/opinions > to the mailing list (or the chair

Consensus call on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr

2010-04-26 Thread Brian Haberman
All, The 6MAN chairs would like feedback from the working group on adopting draft-krishnan-ipv6-exthdr as a WG item. Please send your comments/opinions to the mailing list (or the chairs) by May 7, 2010. Regards, Brian & Bob ---