RE: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-15.txt

2010-10-19 Thread Frank Bulk
I'm afraid if we use "SHOULD", CPE vendors will follow the path so far followed, which is not building that option into their product. I'd rather see a "MUST" to the automatic update functionality, but a "SHOULD" in regards whether it's turned on by default or not. Frank -Original Message---

RE: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-15.txt

2010-10-19 Thread Steve.Dotson
I like it. As Gert already said, it speaks to both views. -Original Message- From: v6ops-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:v6ops-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fred Baker Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:40 PM To: Operations; IESG IESG Cc: i...@core3.amsl.com Subject: Re: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action:

Re: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-15.txt

2010-10-19 Thread Mark Smith
Hi Fred, I'm ok with it. Regards, Mark. On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:40:07 -0700 Fred Baker wrote: > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > > >> I'd think that recommending having an option that disables unattended > >> automatic update would address this concern. Managed ser

Re: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-15.txt

2010-10-19 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Works for me too. Regards Brian Carpenter On 2010-10-20 07:40, Fred Baker wrote: > On Oct 15, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > >>> I'd think that recommending having an option that disables unattended >>> automatic update would address this concern. Managed service providers, >

RE: [v6ops]Fwd: I-D Action:draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-15.txt

2010-10-19 Thread STARK, BARBARA H (ATTLABS)
It's fine. Barbara > -Original Message- > From: v6ops-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:v6ops-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of steve.dot...@cox.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:01 PM > To: f...@cisco.com; v6...@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org > Cc: i...@core3.amsl.com > Subject: Re: [v6ops]Fwd: I-D

RE: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-15.txt

2010-10-19 Thread Ronald Bonica
Me too > -Original Message- > From: v6ops-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:v6ops-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Gert Doering > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:17 PM > To: Fred Baker > Cc: Operations; IESG IESG; i...@core3.amsl.com > Subject: Re: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-sim

Re: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-15.txt

2010-10-19 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:40:07AM -0700, Fred Baker wrote: > /* > * suggestion > */ > REC-13: > Residential Internet Gateways SHOULD provide a convenient means to securely > update their firmware, for the installation of security patches and other > manufacturer-recommended changes. > >

Re: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-15.txt

2010-10-19 Thread Fred Baker
On Oct 15, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> I'd think that recommending having an option that disables unattended >> automatic update would address this concern. Managed service providers, >> since they'd be controlling the CPE, could go in and disable unattended >> automatic upd

Re: DHCPv6 vs ND strikes again (was: New version available)

2010-10-19 Thread james woodyatt
On Sep 22, 2010, at 02:24, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Rémi Després wrote: >> >> Of course, if MS and Apple announce an upgrade of all their IPv6 stacks, to >> the effect that they use DHCPv6 requests to obtain what they no longer get >> in RAs, that would mitigate the need