RE: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps

2013-02-26 Thread Liubing (Leo)
> -Original Message- > From: Sheng Jiang > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:45 PM > To: Liubing (Leo); ipv6@ietf.org > Cc: re...@ietf.org > Subject: RE: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps > > Hi, Bing, > > It is better to at least mention the direction of next step - clearly > r

RE: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps

2013-02-26 Thread Sheng Jiang
Hi, Bing, It is better to at least mention the direction of next step - clearly redefine the flag correspondent host behavior in standards. A couple of more detailed comments: you have used word "gap" several times, while you did not clear describe what gap it is. You have only described issue

RE: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps

2013-02-26 Thread Liubing (Leo)
Hi, Sheng Thanks for your comments. This is the first step, to see if there is consensus of agreeing the problems should be fixed in current standard. If so, we'll submit a draft to fix the ambiguous issue. B.R. Bing > -Original Message- > From: Sheng Jiang > Sent: Wednesday, February

RE: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps

2013-02-26 Thread Karl Auer
On Wed, 2013-02-27 at 05:56 +, Liubing (Leo) wrote: > I like the concept of separating "_address configuration_ methods" and > "address aging methods", if we could initiate the subsequence work, it > should be considered. Hear, hear! Regards, K. -- ~~

RE: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps

2013-02-26 Thread Liubing (Leo)
Hi, Mark Thanks for your comment. I like the concept of separating "_address configuration_ methods" and "address aging methods", if we could initiate the subsequence work, it should be considered. All the best Bing > -Original Message- > From: Mark Smith [mailto:markzzzsm...@yahoo.co

RE: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps

2013-02-26 Thread Liubing (Leo)
Hi, Barbara Thanks for your comments. Please see replies inline. > -Original Message- > From: STARK, BARBARA H [mailto:bs7...@att.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:02 AM > To: Liubing (Leo); ipv6@ietf.org; v6...@ietf.org > Cc: re...@ietf.org > Subject: RE: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf

RE: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps

2013-02-26 Thread Sheng Jiang
This has been a historic issue. Although there was discussions several times, the specification still remain ambiguous. The differences in OS implementations are good proof that we need to do something in IETF. This document has well described the current standard status and reality operational

RE: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps

2013-02-26 Thread Liubing (Leo)
Hi, Victor & Arturo Thanks for the comments. We do plan to write a draft of subsequence solution. But as Victor said, step 1 is to see if the groups agree there are problems. So hope more people could feed back on this. Many thanks. B.R. Bing > -Original Message- > From: Victor Kuarsi

Re: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps

2013-02-26 Thread Karl Auer
On Tue, 2013-02-26 at 07:14 +, Liubing (Leo) wrote: > We submitted a new draft to discuss the SLAAC/DHCPv6 interaction gaps. Some time ago I wrote quite a long reply on this list about it. I've changed my mind on a few points, and here's my current thinking, for what it's worth. I think an upd

Re: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps

2013-02-26 Thread Mark Smith
Hi, I've had a quick read though, I'll try to do a thorough one in the next week or so. Thanks for writing this, I've been thinking about doing something similar over the last few months since, IIRC, I heard about Windows 7 invalidating IPv6 addresses learned via DHCPv6 when SLAAC was enabled

RE: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps

2013-02-26 Thread STARK, BARBARA H
This is interesting. Thanks for doing these tests and submitting the results. When testing the switching behavior, I'm curious for the " SLAAC-only host receiving A=0&M=1 " case as to what you set the Preferred Lifetime to, when you set A=0. I'm guessing Preferred Lifetime > 0? Since RFC 4862 st

FW: New Version Notification for draft-thubert-6lowpan-backbone-router-03.txt

2013-02-26 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
Hi: This is work that started at 6LoWPAN and was part of the early 6LoWPAN ND WG doc. It is now contiguous to 6MAN work with the Efficiency aware IPv6 Neighbor Discovery. The context is a backbone link, in a situation where the 6LoWPAN ND or the Efficiency aware IPv6 Neighbor Discovery reserva

Re: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps

2013-02-26 Thread Victor Kuarsingh
Bing, I as able to review the draft and agree this needs to be documented and discussed. I have had many frustrating nights dealing with my multiple OSs at home and figuring out what behaviour I was trying to expect when changing the upstream router's settings (M/O/A). I think the problem space

New Version Notification for draft-sarikaya-mif-6man-ra-route-02.txt

2013-02-26 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
A new version of I-D, draft-sarikaya-mif-6man-ra-route-02.txt has been successfully submitted by Behcet Sarikaya and posted to the IETF repository. Filename:draft-sarikaya-mif-6man-ra-route Revision:02 Title: IPv6 RA Options for Multiple Interface Next Hop Routes Creation

Re: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps

2013-02-26 Thread Arturo Servin
Good. Regarding a possible next step. Are you guys planning to propose a "correct" behavior of the flags? It may be worth to try. Regards, as On 26/02/2013 17:53, Liubing (Leo) wrote: > Hi, Arturo and all > > That was my mistake. I derived this draft from a template and forgot

RE: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps

2013-02-26 Thread Liubing (Leo)
Hi, Arturo and all That was my mistake. I derived this draft from a template and forgot to change it. It should be "Informational", thanks for finding this bug. B.R. Bing > -Original Message- > From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Arturo Servin > Se

Re: SLAAC/DHCPv6 addr-conf operational gaps

2013-02-26 Thread Arturo Servin
Dear authors, Very interesting document and very valuable to document the current behavior of the A, M and O flags (that have caused some headaches to some including myself when troubleshooting IPv6). I see that has been submitted as "Proposed Standard" but I failed to find what y