Re: u/g in general [was Mail from softwire working group about 4rd]

2012-12-13 Thread Ole Trøan
Brian, >>> I think the only way to make progress on this question is to >>> discuss two points in a much more general way: >>> >>> 1. Does the current mapping of the "u" bit in the modified EUI format have >>> any value? >>> >>> 2. Does the current mapping of the "g" bit in the modified EUI for

Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-13 Thread Ole Trøan
> There is no ND at all, that is, no NA/NS/RA/RS etc. the document you references states that ND is used like for any other IPv6 link. where do you get the "no ND" from? as a thought experiment, how would a link without ND function? how do you do router discovery, and address resolution? > You c

Re: u/g in general [was Mail from softwire working group about 4rd]

2012-12-12 Thread Ole Trøan
> I think the only way to make progress on this question is to > discuss two points in a much more general way: > > 1. Does the current mapping of the "u" bit in the modified EUI format have > any value? > > 2. Does the current mapping of the "g" bit in the modified EUI format have > any value?

Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-12 Thread Ole Trøan
Hi, > I am a little bit confused what we are talking about. > Our draft is necessary when there is no SLAAC. > > Could you elaborate your viewpoints? the PIO option in RA has several functions. 1) with the A-flag on, it is used by SLAAC. 2) with the L-flag on, it is used for onlink determinatio

Re: Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-12 Thread Ole Trøan
Sheng, I think the argument given in the draft for operators wanting a DHCPv6-managed network without ND is flawed. ND is required for router discovery, neighbour discovery etc anyway. and a router on the link must be configured with the onlink prefix regardless. >>>

Re: Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-12 Thread Ole Trøan
Sheng, >> I think the argument given in the draft for operators wanting a >> DHCPv6-managed network without ND is flawed. >> ND is required for router discovery, neighbour discovery etc anyway. and a >> router on the link must be configured >> with the onlink prefix regardless. >> >> while we can

Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-10 Thread Ole Trøan
> - we shouldn't create new DHCPv6 options with T1/T2 timers. those should be > put in a separate option > Frank=>Please give me a link so that I could check the "SHOULDN'T" rule. wouldn't go as far as claiming it is a "SHOULD NOT". http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-stateful-issue

Re: Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-06 Thread Ole Trøan
Sheng, > Back in Atlanta, in DHC WG meeting, you said you would review the document. > Could you give the comments? I knew that would come back and haunt me. ;) comments below. also included dhc and 6man >> Draft: Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6 >> Presenter: Sheng Jiang >> URL:http://

IETF85: Move 6man to Tuesday?

2012-10-29 Thread Ole Trøan
All, there is a suggestion by our AD to move the 6man session from Monday morning to Tuesday morning. this is to allow Apps people to participate in the discussion on the URI draft. If anyone has strong objections to moving the session to Tuesday, please let us know. Best regards, Ole & Bob --

Re: 6man IETF85 Call for agenda items

2012-10-26 Thread Ole Trøan
Alex, > If it fits within available space, I would like to request a short slot to > present Prefix Delegation extensions to ND : > > "Prefix Delegation extension to Neighbor Discovery protocol" > draft-kaiser-nd-pd-00 > Speaker: Alexandru Petrescu, alexandru.petre...@cea.fr > 5min(?) we do hav

Re: 6man IETF85 Call for agenda items

2012-10-25 Thread Ole Trøan
All, I have posted a draft agenda at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/agenda/agenda-85-6man If something has been missed, please let the chairs know. As we are meeting first thing Monday morning, please let the chairs have the slides as soon as possible, no later than Saturday the 3rd of

6MAN WG Last Call:

2012-10-10 Thread Ole Trøan
last call will end on 24. October 2012. Regards, Ole Trøan & Bob Hinden IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6

Re: Adopting draft-krishnan-6man-resilient-rs

2012-10-04 Thread Ole Trøan
all, this is to confirm the adoption of the draft-krishnan-6man-resilient-rs as a working group document. can the authors please resubmit the draft as draft-ietf-6man-resilient-rs. Best regards, Ole & Bob >> >> >> All, >> >> There was consensus in the room for adopting this document in Vanc

Re: IPv6 address assignment for strictly point-to-point links and Device Loopbacks

2012-09-26 Thread Ole Trøan
> Also its a good idea to encompass recommendations for p2p and loopbacks (and > for that matter any assignment where prefix length is going beyond /64 into > smaller subnets) into one standard track because the cautions and potential > overlap issues that may exist for a /127 would pretty much

Document status

2012-09-14 Thread Ole Trøan
all, fyi: the chairs have just requested the IESG to publish: draft-ietf-6man-udpchecksums-04 draft-ietf-6man-udpzero-06 document status of all our working group documents are available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/6man/ upcoming document actions are: - WGLC of draft-ietf-6man-add

Adopting draft-krishnan-6man-resilient-rs

2012-09-11 Thread Ole Trøan
All, There was consensus in the room for adopting this document in Vancouver. This starts a 1-week call to confirm that consensus on the mailing list Title : Packet loss resiliency for Router Solicitations Author(s) : S. Krishnan, D. Anipko, D. Thaler Filename : draft-krishnan-6m

Towards consensus on draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid

2012-08-14 Thread Ole Trøan
all, I fully accept that there are no perfect solution to this problem. given that we are were we are... it appears there is consensus building around Stuart's proposal. that entails: - encode '%' as "%25" - advocate that URI parsers are forgiving about accepting bare '%' i.e. a '%' not foll

IETF84 - 6man minutes

2012-08-13 Thread Ole Trøan
all, the minutes from the 6man working group session is now available at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/minutes/minutes-84-6man cheers, Ole smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature IETF IPv6 working group mail

Re: DAD question

2012-08-11 Thread Ole Trøan
>>> Call this "making sure I'm on the same page as anyone else"… >>> >>> RFC 4941 describes privacy addresses, and RFC 4291 describes an EID based >>> on a MAC Address. RFC 4862 describes stateless address autoconfiguration, >>> and uses RFC 4861's duplicate address detection mechanism. >>> >>>

Re: DAD question

2012-08-11 Thread Ole Trøan
Fred, > Call this "making sure I'm on the same page as anyone else"… > > RFC 4941 describes privacy addresses, and RFC 4291 describes an EID based on > a MAC Address. RFC 4862 describes stateless address autoconfiguration, and > uses RFC 4861's duplicate address detection mechanism. > > My que

Volunteers needed: Minute takers and jabber scribe

2012-07-31 Thread Ole Trøan
hi, we will be doing minutes with etherpad (http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6man/minutes). greatly appreciated if we could get a couple of volunteers for minute taking and jabber scribing ahead of tomorrows meeting. Best regards, Ole & Bob ---

IETF 84 6man agenda

2012-07-25 Thread Ole Trøan
all, apologies for the late update, the tentative 6man agenda is now available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/84/agenda/6man/ appreciated if the presenters could send the chairs their presentations, preferably no later than Tuesday mid day. Best regards, Ole & Bob

6man IETF84 Call for agenda items

2012-06-20 Thread Ole Trøan
As we had in Paris, we have a one 2-hour slot planned for the 6man working group session in Vancouver. If you have a draft you would like to discuss, please let the chairs/list know. We will prioritise drafts that are working group items, drafts that have been actively discussed on the list an

6MAN WG Call for adoption draft-gont-6man-nd-extension-headers-03

2012-06-13 Thread Ole Trøan
All, This starts a 2-week consensus call on adopting Title : Security Implications of the Use of IPv6 Extension Headers with IPv6 Neighbor Discovery Author(s) : F. Gont Filename : draft-gont-6man-nd-extension-headers-03 Pages : 13 Date

6MAN WG Call for adoption draft-gont-6man-oversized-header-chain-02

2012-06-13 Thread Ole Trøan
All, This starts a 2-week consensus call on adopting Title : Security and Interoperability Implications of Oversized IPv6 Header Chains Author(s) : F. Gont, V. Manral Filename : draft-gont-6man-oversized-header-chain-02 Pages : 12 Date

6MAN WG [second] Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-01.txt

2012-06-13 Thread Ole Trøan
All, This message starts a one-week 6MAN Working Group Last Call on advancing: Title : Representing IPv6 Zone Identifiers in Uniform Resource Identifiers Author(s) : Brian Carpenter Robert M. Hinden Filename : draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-01.txt

Re: Is there an official Extension Headers List?

2012-05-23 Thread Ole Trøan
Brian, > I agree with that, but we seem to have a small problem. > > RFC 2460 says that unrecognized extension headers should > lead to a discard and an ICMP Parameter Problem message, > and RFC 6434 confirms this - but without adding the extension > headers defined since RFC 2460. Thus the Inter

Re: Consensus call on adopting:

2012-05-08 Thread Ole Trøan
All, Based on the feedback received, the 6man chairs believe there is consensus for 6MAN to work on creating a new type of IPv6 interface identifiers, as described in draft-gont-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-01. The discussion brought up some issues that we will work with the author to resolve, i

Re: Options for draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid

2012-05-08 Thread Ole Trøan
>>> 1) Leave the problem unsolved. >>> >>> This would mean that per-interface diagnostics would still have to be >>> performed using ping or ping6 >>> >>> ping fe80::a%en1 >>> >>> Advantage: works today. >>> >>> Disadvantage: less convenient than using a browswer. >>> >>> 2) Escaping the esca

Re: Options for draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid

2012-05-04 Thread Ole Trøan
> 1) Leave the problem unsolved. > > This would mean that per-interface diagnostics would still have to be > performed using ping or ping6 > > ping fe80::a%en1 > > Advantage: works today. > > Disadvantage: less convenient than using a browswer. > > 2) Escaping the escape character as allowed

Re: Building control standards

2012-05-02 Thread Ole Trøan
Kerry, > No problem. I am not familiar with some of the standards you mention. > The problem comes in when these "last meters" protocols develop their own > proprietary data links. BACnet is in that camp currently with MS/TP, which > is one of several data links that it supports but the only one

Predictable IP protocol values

2012-04-27 Thread Ole Trøan
predictable fragment ID problem in IPv6 - do nothing? cheers, Ole On Apr 26, 2012, at 22:53 , Fernando Gont wrote: > Hi, Ole, > > On 04/26/2012 08:50 AM, Ole Trøan wrote: >>> I think that draft-gont-6man-predictable-fragment-id is also ready >>> for wg call for adoption as

Re: question on RDNSS, RFC 6106 part 5.1

2012-04-26 Thread Ole Trøan
Pavel, I concur with your description of the problem. do you have a proposal for how it can be solved? Best regards, Ole On Apr 19, 2012, at 23:32 , Pavel Šimerda wrote: > Hello, > > I'm starting my work on linux NetworkManager. I've been following > several bugreports during the recent month

Re: 6MAN Minutes, Actions, and Document Status

2012-04-26 Thread Ole Trøan
Fernando, [...] > Some errata for the minutes: > > The current text says: > cut here > Ole asked about how this was different from an unknown L4 header? > > > cut here > > There was an answer, so "" should probably be replaced with > something along the lines of "Fernando

Re: Time slot at 83 meeting?

2012-03-01 Thread Ole Trøan
Zhou, > How can I ask for a presentation time slot? send a request to the chairs. 6man-cha...@tools.ietf.org cheers, Ole > > Regards~~~ > > -Sujing Zhou > > ipv6-boun...@ietf.org 写于 2012-02-29 03:08:51: > > > On 2/28/2012 5:12 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I was wonderin