Re: [its] I-D Action: draft-imadali-its-vinipv6-viid-00.txt

2013-04-04 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: > If I can derive the VIN from the prefix, I agree that it helps identify > the vehicle, but not really. If any of this stuff is going to be > useful, there will already be a collision avoidance protocol that will > tell each car (even w

Re: Confirming consensus on adopting draft-carpenter-6man-ug-01

2013-03-23 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Ole Troan wrote: > All, > > At the Orlando meeting this document was discussed, and there was consensus > in the room to > adopt this as a working group document. > > This message starts a one week 6MAN Working Group call on confirming the > consensus on the mail

Re: Announcing 2 drafts for VIN-based IPv6 ULA prefixes and IIDs

2013-02-20 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:14 PM, sofiane Imadali wrote: > Hi, > Thanks for your interest Roger, your question is very pertinent and I > wanted to share it with the group (hope you don't mind bringing this > offlist mail to the list). no I don't mind, I'll comment on your answer inline > -

Re: I-D Action: draft-imadali-its-vinipv6-vula-00.txt

2013-02-19 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > Yes, and if I am not wrong, ULAs are globally unique. There is no guaranty that it will ever be unique, just that the chance of a collision are quite low. -- Roger Jorgensen | ROJO9-RIPE rog...@gmail.com | - IPv

Re: Announcing 2 drafts for VIN-based IPv6 ULA prefixes and IIDs

2013-02-18 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Scott Brim wrote: > I have the usual concerns about privacy. I have no problem with someone > knowing the endpoint that is communicating is associated with a vehicle > (or that I, a human, am communicating from a vehicle). However, if > someone can map easily fro

Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.txt]

2013-02-07 Thread Roger Jørgensen
sorry, but we can't all be nice all the time, see more inline, On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Rémi Després wrote: > (b) The benefit comes from the following, i.e. one of the 4rd objectives: > - We want to statelessly establish automatic tunnels for residual IPv4 across > IPv6-only domains. n

Re: [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-ug-00.txt]

2013-02-03 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 9:56 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: > On 2/3/13 11:39 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: >> On 2/3/2013 2:36 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >>> On 03/02/2013 17:26, Joel M. Halpern wrote: To a significant degree Randy, I agree with you in your comment about magic bits. If I w

Re: 4rd IID range & IPv6 addressing architecture

2013-01-31 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Ole Troan wrote: > agree with what Ray says. that gives a path forward for 4rd without requiring > us to settle the interface-id structure question. For what it's worth, I also agree with Ray. Nothing brought forward by or from 4rd have convince me about anyth

Re: Use the IANA registry of RFC5453 for 4rd (was IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd)

2012-12-21 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Rémi Després wrote: > 2012-12-2110:49, Ole Troan : > ... >>> (*) >>> 4rd implementors are free to add code to reject any intra-site IID that (by >>> mistake) would be universal-scope, and in the 4rd-assigned IID range. >> >> but the current specification does not

Re: Re: IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd

2012-12-19 Thread Roger Jørgensen
see inline: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Ray Hunter wrote: > OK I'll bite. All IMVHO. > > In answer to Fred's question, to me the current problem is on the end > hosts and not on existing intermediate devices. > > There are many different ways to assign IPv6 addresses, including manual > ass

Re: IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd

2012-12-19 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Rémi Després wrote: > Ole, Roland, > > Could we limit the 6man discussion to the question asked by Softwire, i.e. > whether new IID types can be defined, using u=g=1, with a first one for 4rd, > is compatible with the current IPv6 specification? sorry, but you

Re: Mail from softwire working group about 4rd

2012-12-12 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Suresh Krishnan wrote: > Hi all, > > The 4rd draft (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-softwire-4rd-04) > describes a solution for providing IPv4 connectivity over IPv6. The > draft describes the method for mapping 4rd IPv4 addresses to 4rd IPv6 > Addresses. It u

Re: 3484bis and privacy addresses

2012-03-27 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Brian Haberman wrote: > All, >     The chairs would like to get a sense of the working group on changing > the current (defined 3484) model of preferring public addresses over privacy > addresses during the address selection process.  RFC 3484 prefers public > addr

Re: Consensus call on adopting: draft-carpenter-6man-uri-zoneid-01.txt

2012-02-08 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Brian Haberman wrote: > All, >     This is a consensus call on adopting: > >     Title     : Representing IPv6 Zone Identifiers in >                 Uniform Resource Identifiers >     Author(s) : Brian Carpenter >                 Robert M. Hinden >     Filename  : d

Re: IPv6 Router Advertisement Option for Foobar Configuration

2011-12-25 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Dec 23, 2011 8:57 AM, "Doug Barton" wrote: > What I *am* saying is that extending RA is always the *wrong* answer. Yes it is. Keep RA simple and lets solve "problems" elsewhere, dhcp is the current tool. --- Roger J --- IE

Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.txt

2011-12-16 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Roger, > > On 2011-12-16 10:52, Roger Jørgensen wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Brian E Carpenter >> wrote: >>> Well, the end of my conversation is at >>> >>> http://www.ietf

Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.txt

2011-12-15 Thread Roger Jørgensen
> In IESG parlance that all seems like "new I-D needed" to me. > > Regards >   Brian Carpenter > > > On 2011-12-16 08:07, Roger Jørgensen wrote: >> On Dec 15, 2011 7:32 PM, "Brian Haberman" wrote: >>> Hi Chris, >>>     Unfortunately,

Re: 6MAN WG Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-05.txt

2011-12-15 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Dec 15, 2011 7:32 PM, "Brian Haberman" wrote: > > Hi Chris, > Unfortunately, the draft is in a limbo state at this point. The WG > Last Call ended about a month ago with zero comments or statements of > support. The chairs cannot advance this document without some show of > support by the

Re: A6 record status

2011-08-11 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Hi, > > What do 6man people think about moving RFC 2874 (the A6 record) > from Experimental to Historic status? > > It's pretty clear that it doesn't have any real value, and > it can still create confusion for newcomers. uh, thought (a

Re: [v6ops] [OPSAWG] Heads up - Plea for allocating a /8 to ISPs

2010-11-11 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Mark Smith wrote: > While I do think the NAT444 option has value, I also do think it is > also fundamentally delaying the inevitable "Stick" option. In my > experience, the sooner you suffer the pain, the less you suffer over > all. ISPs with customer owned CPE a

Re: ping-pong phenomenon with p2p links & /127 prefixes

2010-08-16 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On man, august 16, 2010 11:46, Randy Bush wrote: >>> I have no plans to ask Cisco and Juniper about this. I want /127 to >>> continue working, and couldn't care less about subnet anycast for my >>> core routers. >> >> I think you miss my point: they might finally comply with the specs one >> day (i