Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

On 03/08/2013 12:06 AM, Fernando Gont wrote: Hi, Bob, Please replace the link to with a link to It's better to leave the -NN off the end altogether, then th

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

Hi, Bob, Please replace the link to with a link to Thanks! Cheers, Fernando On 03/04/2013 09:02 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: > You can find the current 6MAN agen

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

Bob, On 03/05/2013 07:42 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: > >> draft-gont-6man-ipv6-smurf-amplifier : 2 discussion on the list : >> 15 mins > > This was the chairs call as we thought there would be interest in it. > Given the discussion on the list, there appears to be more interest > in and we propose to

RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

Of Michael Richardson Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 6:31 PM To: Hosnieh Rafiee Cc: Karl Auer; ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 >>>>> "Hosnieh" == Hosnieh Rafiee writes: Hosnieh> This is not true. I think that you have confused this Hosnieh> dra

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

> "Hosnieh" == Hosnieh Rafiee writes: Hosnieh> This is not true. I think that you have confused this Hosnieh> draft with another draft that was not about security but Hosnieh> had the title "Stable Privacy Addresses". Otherwise you are Hosnieh> saying that you do not want to

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

> Thank you, > Hosnieh > > -Original Message- > From: Bob Hinden [mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 11:43 PM > To: Hosnieh Rafiee > Cc: Bob Hinden; 'Ole Troan'; ipv6@ietf.org > Subject: Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 > > Hosneih, &g

RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

snieh -Original Message- From: Bob Hinden [mailto:bob.hin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 11:43 PM To: Hosnieh Rafiee Cc: Bob Hinden; 'Ole Troan'; ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Hosneih, It was a mix of things the chairs thought where important and prior

RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On Mar 5, 2013, at 01:02, Bob Hinden wrote: > >> 6LoWPAN Backbone Router >> draft-thubert-6lowpan-backbone-router-02.txt > > That actually has received more discussion back in 2010... > (I think you want to point to -03.) > > A

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

Carsten, On Mar 5, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On Mar 5, 2013, at 01:02, Bob Hinden wrote: > >> 6LoWPAN Backbone Router >> draft-thubert-6lowpan-backbone-router-02.txt > > That actually has received more discussion back in 2010... > (I think you want to point to -03.) Fi

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

Hosneih, It was a mix of things the chairs thought where important and prior history of the work. We also, of course, have a fixed amount of time and can't accommodate everything. See specific comments below. Bob & Ole On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:25 AM, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote: > Dear All, > I would

RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

lso include it in my draft. Thank you, Hosnieh -Original Message- From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mark Smith Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:18 PM To: Michael Richardson; Karl Auer Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Hi, - Ori

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

On Mar 5, 2013, at 01:02, Bob Hinden wrote: > 6LoWPAN Backbone Router > draft-thubert-6lowpan-backbone-router-02.txt That actually has received more discussion back in 2010... (I think you want to point to -03.) An earlier version of that draft received even more discussion while it was

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

Hi, - Original Message - > From: Michael Richardson > To: Karl Auer > Cc: ipv6@ietf.org > Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2013 5:48 AM > Subject: Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 > > >>>>>> "Karl" == Karl Auer > writes: >     Ka

RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

48 PM To: Karl Auer Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 >>>>> "Karl" == Karl Auer writes: Karl> On Mon, 2013-03-04 at 16:02 -0800, Bob Hinden wrote: >> A Simple Secure Addressing Generation Scheme for IPv6 >> AutoConfigura

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

> "Karl" == Karl Auer writes: Karl> On Mon, 2013-03-04 at 16:02 -0800, Bob Hinden wrote: >> A Simple Secure Addressing Generation Scheme for IPv6 >> AutoConfiguration draft-rafiee-6man-ssas-01.txt [...] >> DHCPv6/SLAAC Address Configuration Interaction Problem Statement >>

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

) 659-8360 www.insidethestack.com - Original Message - From: Hosnieh Rafiee To: 'Nalini Elkins' Cc: ipv6@ietf.org; 'Alexandru Petrescu' ; 'Karl Auer' Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:43 AM Subject: RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Dear Nalini, Yes. That RFC is

RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

Message- From: Nalini Elkins [mailto:nalini.elk...@insidethestack.com] Sent: Dienstag, 5. März 2013 16:25 To: Alexandru Petrescu; Hosnieh Rafiee; Karl Auer Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Guys, I am going to go back and review "IPv6 Neighbor Discovery (ND) Trust Model

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

arch 5, 2013 6:41 AM Subject: Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Hosnieh, I would have to read the draft and feed back about SSAS. Some of the drafts I mentioned (ND-PD) were presented to 6MAN meeting in Atlanta, and discussed on the email list.  One of the drafts (draft-jhlee-mext-mnpp-00) is considered at

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexandru Petrescu Sent: Dienstag, 5. März 2013 14:40 To: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 ND security is an important topic. Let me explain why. We consider the use of ND over 802.11p links for vehicular communications. These links dont have

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

'Karl Auer' Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 5:45 AM Subject: RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Dear Nalini,   Our draft http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rafiee-6man-ssas-02 talks about a solution for securing ND while also considering privacy. You can read this version, however, I will be

RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 ND security is an important topic. Let me explain why. We consider the use of ND over 802.11p links for vehicular communications. These links dont have ESSID nor link-layer security. (it is not clear whether it is legal to run IP straight over

RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Karl, I definitely agree that ND needs to be secured. Also agree that neither IPSec nor SEND are viable solutions. I do not know if I am missing something but I have not seen a comprehensive document with these problems detailed. I certainly don't have a sol

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

, March 5, 2013 1:37 AM *Subject:* Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 On Mon, 2013-03-04 at 16:02 -0800, Bob Hinden wrote: A Simple Secure Addressing Generation Scheme for IPv6 AutoConfiguration draft-rafiee-6man-ssas-01.txt [...] DHCPv6/SLAAC Address Configuration Interaction Problem Statement draft-liu

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

ny at IETF agree that indeed there is a problem, then we can discuss a potential solution.   Thanks, Nalini Elkins Inside Products, Inc. (831) 659-8360 www.insidethestack.com From: Karl Auer To: ipv6@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 1:37 AM Subject: Re: 6

RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

nk you, Hosnieh -Original Message- From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hosnieh Rafiee Sent: Dienstag, 5. März 2013 12:26 To: 'Bob Hinden'; 'Ole Troan' Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86 Dear All, I would apprecia

RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

Dear All, I would appreciate if you explain your criteria for assigning time slot to the drafts while other drafts discussed on the mailing list too. The recent discussion on the list about the following drafts that you assigned the time slot. draft-boucadair-6man-multicast-addr-arch : 3 discus

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

Brian, > The agenda shows an obsolete version for draft-carpenter-6man-ext-transmit-02. > The changes are significant! thanks, fixed. cheers, Ole IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: http

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

Bob, The agenda shows an obsolete version for draft-carpenter-6man-ext-transmit-02. The changes are significant! Regards Brian IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/m

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

On Mon, 2013-03-04 at 16:02 -0800, Bob Hinden wrote: >A Simple Secure Addressing Generation Scheme for IPv6 > AutoConfiguration > draft-rafiee-6man-ssas-01.txt > [...] >DHCPv6/SLAAC Address Configuration Interaction Problem Statement > draft-liu-bonica-dhcpv6-slaac-problem-01.tx

RE: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

Dear All, I am sorry, it took a while that I could revise and apply comments to the draft. But, unfortunately there was not enough time to upload a new version and I could just upload a version with a few revision. I would ask you again to consider the presentation as it would be a great chance to

Re: 6MAN Agenda for IETF86

Bob >DHCPv6/SLAAC Address Configuration Interaction Problem Statement > draft-liu-bonica-dhcpv6-slaac-problem-01.txt I think this is a very important topic. Its impact might seem to fall more in v6ops territory, and it also has relevance to mif and homenet, but only 6man (IMHO) can fix