Re: Discussion summary and next-step Re: Thoughts on address selection

2010-01-21 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi, On 2010/01/19, at 10:26, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Rémi, > > On 2010-01-19 01:46, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: >> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:13:16 +0900, Arifumi Matsumoto >> wrote: >>> * Fred's proposal. >>> - A host tries each pair of src and dst addresses to establish >>> a connection in a sh

Re: Discussion summary and next-step Re: Thoughts on address selection

2010-01-21 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Hi, >>> >>> Missing a Pro that I consider significant: >>> >>> - Users will no longer experience multi-second connection >> delays due >>> to IPv6's address selection. This means more users will >>> leave IPv6 enabled. >> >> not due to IPv6's address selection, but due to IPv6 connection

Re: Discussion summary and next-step Re: Thoughts on address selection

2010-01-21 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Let me re-send the following e-mail. It did not make it to 6man ml web archive. --- Hi, >>> >>> Missing a Pro that I consider significant: >>> >>> - Users will no longer experience multi-second connection >> delays due >>> to IPv6's address selection. This means more users will >>> leave

RE: Discussion summary and next-step Re: Thoughts on address selection

2010-01-21 Thread Dan Wing
elect-...@tools.ietf.org; > draft-ietf-6man-addr-select-considerati...@tools.ietf.org; > 'Mohacsi Janos'; 'Fred Baker'; > draft-arifumi-6man-addr-select-confl...@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Re: Discussion summary and next-step Re: Thoughts on > address selection

RE: Discussion summary and next-step Re: Thoughts on address selection

2010-01-19 Thread Dan Wing
.org; > draft-ietf-6man-addr-select-considerati...@tools.ietf.org; > 'Mohacsi Janos'; 'Fred Baker'; > draft-arifumi-6man-addr-select-confl...@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Re: Discussion summary and next-step Re: Thoughts on > address selection > > Dan, &g

Re: Discussion summary and next-step Re: Thoughts on address selection

2010-01-18 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Rémi, On 2010-01-19 01:46, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:13:16 +0900, Arifumi Matsumoto > wrote: >> * Fred's proposal. >> - A host tries each pair of src and dst addresses to establish >> a connection in a short time period. >> - A host can make use of ICMP error messages i

Re: Discussion summary and next-step Re: Thoughts on address selection

2010-01-18 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:13:16 +0900, Arifumi Matsumoto wrote: > * Fred's proposal. > - A host tries each pair of src and dst addresses to establish > a connection in a short time period. > - A host can make use of ICMP error messages indicating that the > src address should be this, or the src a

Re: Discussion summary and next-step Re: Thoughts on address selection

2010-01-18 Thread Arifumi Matsumoto
Dan, thank you for your comments. My responses below. >> >> Hi, >> >> let me summarize the discussion we had about address selection, >> and move on to the next-step. >> >> The discussion was about a try-and-error based mechanism proposed >> by Fred Baker, and the address selection design team

Re: Discussion summary and next-step Re: Thoughts on address selection

2010-01-15 Thread Fred Baker
On Jan 15, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Dan Wing wrote: Missing a Pro that I consider significant: - Users will no longer experience multi-second connection delays due to IPv6's address selection. This means more users will leave IPv6 enabled. To me, that's the big issue. The point is to find

RE: Discussion summary and next-step Re: Thoughts on address selection

2010-01-15 Thread Dan Wing
> -Original Message- > From: Arifumi Matsumoto [mailto:arif...@nttv6.net] > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 3:13 AM > To: IETF IPv6 Mailing List > Cc: Rémi Denis-Courmont; Dan Wing; > draft-ietf-6man-addr-select-...@tools.ietf.org; > draft-ietf-6man-addr-select-considerati...@tools.iet