Re: FW: New Version Notification for, draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-31 Thread Erik Nordmark
On 10/17/11 9:32 AM, Ray Hunter wrote: Would therefore humbly suggest a minimum/ default / recommendation of an 8 octet nonce option (minus the existing 16 pre-assigned bits) meaning 48 bits available for the nonce field, with the option of using longer 16 or 24 octet nonce options if an impleme

RE: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-18 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
From: Thomas Narten [mailto:nar...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:15 AM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou; IPv6 WG Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt The WG should produce one single document, not two.

Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-18 Thread Thomas Narten
The WG should produce one single document, not two. This is pretty simple stuff here and we don't need 2 documents, each only 5 pages long. Indeed, I think it's sort of unfortunate that we have started out with two competing documents, for no good reason that I can see. Its not like the proposed a

Re: FW: New Version Notification for, draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-17 Thread Ray Hunter
going through a scanner on a palette and all trying to get an address at once. regards, RayH Message: 1 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:41:05 +0200 From: Philip Homburg To: "Hemant Singh (shemant)" Cc: IPv6 WG Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh

RE: FW: New Version Notification for, draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-17 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
,draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt >Since the number of bits for the nonce was an open question for the -01 document, we will add text in a -02 version reflecting the closure. So then it >should be OK to specify the default to be 48 bits and let an implementation use higher length

RE: FW: New Version Notification for, draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-17 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
-Original Message- From: Ray Hunter [mailto:v6...@globis.net] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:33 PM To: Philip Homburg; Hemant Singh (shemant); Ole Troan; Brian E Carpenter Cc: IPv6 WG Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for, draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

Re: FW: New Version Notification for, draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-17 Thread Ray Hunter
I think 20 bits should be already be more than enough. For simplicity, I would just go for 64 bits. Assuming hosts generate sufficiently strong pseudo-random numbers, 20 bits means that once every one million cases of a genuine duplicate address, both hosts may mistakenly assume there is a loopb

Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-17 Thread Philip Homburg
In your letter dated Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:25:19 -0500 you wrote: >Appreciate the quick reply. Note BrianC already noted that 20 bits will >not suffice by saying "It puts you into birthday-paradox territory on a >LAN with a few hundred nodes.". His email is at the URL below. > >http://www.ietf.org/

Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-17 Thread Philip Homburg
In your letter dated Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:14:21 -0500 you wrote: >-Original Message- >From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com] >Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 3:18 PM >To: Hemant Singh (shemant) >Cc: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou; IPv6 WG Mailing List >Subject: Re: FW: New V

RE: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-17 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
-Original Message- From: pch-b29aa8...@u-1.phicoh.com [mailto:pch-b29aa8...@u-1.phicoh.com] On Behalf Of Philip Homburg Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:00 AM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: IPv6 WG Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad

RE: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-17 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
-Original Message- From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 3:18 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou; IPv6 WG Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-15 Thread Brian E Carpenter
once . > > > > Hemant > > > > From: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou [mailto:ach...@forthnetgroup.gr] > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:50 AM > To: Brian E Carpenter > Cc: Hemant Singh (shemant); IPv6 WG Mailing List > Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for

RE: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-15 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
List Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt Also, looking at draft-ietf-6man-flow-3697bis-07, i can see the following under introduction: A stateful scenario is one where a node that processes the flow label value needs to store information

Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-15 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
rsion Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt I have no objection Brian. I can understand the reason for keeping the flow label "clean". I was just wondering if there were any plans to use the flow label for ND traffic too, or we should consider that there are no r

Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-14 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote on 15/10/2011 02:57: Tassos, -Original Message- From: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou [mailto:ach...@forthnetgroup.gr] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 7:31 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: IPv6 WG Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft

RE: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-14 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
PM To: Brian E Carpenter Cc: Hemant Singh (shemant); IPv6 WG Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt I have no objection Brian. I can understand the reason for keeping the flow label "clean". I was just wondering if there were any p

Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-14 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
thomaoglou [mailto:ach...@forthnet.gr] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 6:29 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: IPv6 WG Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt I was wondering...wouldn't the flow label be a "better" field for s

RE: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-14 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
Tassos, -Original Message- From: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou [mailto:ach...@forthnetgroup.gr] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 7:31 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: IPv6 WG Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt >btw, draft-as

Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-14 Thread Brian E Carpenter
t; >> From: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou [mailto:ach...@forthnet.gr] >> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 6:29 PM >> To: Hemant Singh (shemant) >> Cc: IPv6 WG Mailing List >> Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for >> draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt >> >> >

Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-14 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote on 15/10/2011 01:41: Tassos, From: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou [mailto:ach...@forthnet.gr] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 6:29 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: IPv6 WG Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

RE: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-14 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
Tassos, From: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou [mailto:ach...@forthnet.gr] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 6:29 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: IPv6 WG Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt >Lastly, i have a question about your example w

Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-14 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
Hi, I was wondering...wouldn't the flow label be a "better" field for storing this random number? If i remember correctly, early drafts of RPL were using it for loop detection (ok, in a very different way), although in the later ones a new option was chosen.

RE: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt

2011-10-14 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
Tassos, From: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou [mailto:ach...@forthnet.gr] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 6:29 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: IPv6 WG Mailing List Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-hsingh-6man-enhanced-dad-01.txt >I was wondering...wouldn't the flow la