RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-02-02 Thread marcelo bagnulo
D] > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Asunto: RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes > > > I agree with Christian and Pekka here. > > So I think, we mostly agree upon the text that I had sent out > and I don't have to make any changes to that. > > > -

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-02-02 Thread Mukesh . Gupta
> > 5 - source address failed ingress policy > [...] > > > >If the reason for the failure to deliver is that packets > with this > >source address is not allowed due to ingress filtering > policies, the > >Code field is set to 5. > > One minor comment here: this co

Re: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-02-02 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 5 - source address failed ingress policy [...] > >If the reason for the failure to deliver is that packets with this >source address is not allowed due to ingress filtering policies, the >Code field is set to 5. One mino

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-02-01 Thread Mukesh . Gupta
To: Pekka Savola; marcelo bagnulo > Cc: Gupta Mukesh (Nokia-NET/MtView); [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes > > > > But this is just an operational procedure, which needs to > be stated in > > the multihoming solution documents, b

Learning a valid prefix (Re: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes)

2004-02-01 Thread Greg Daley
Hi Christian, I agree, Desination Unreachable is not the right place to put this information. I'll explain further below. Christian Huitema wrote: If I am not wrong, if we wanted the router to send the correct prefix to the host in the ICMP message, we will have to change the format of the ICMPv6

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-31 Thread Christian Huitema
> But this is just an operational procedure, which needs to be stated in > the multihoming solution documents, but something that IMHO must not > be added to the ICMPv6 spec, as it's really out of scope from ICMP > perspective. I agree with Pekka. The purpose of the ICMPv6 document is to reserve t

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-31 Thread Pekka Savola
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004, marcelo bagnulo wrote: > I think that Christian's proposal doesn't change the packet format, since > the router just has to be smart enough to pick the right source address. > > So all that it is needed is to state that the router has to pick one of its > own addresses that it

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-31 Thread marcelo bagnulo
MAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 12:09 PM > > To: Pekka Savola > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gupta Mukesh (Nokia-NET/MtView); > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes > > > > > > > FWIW, I have no

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-30 Thread Bob Hinden
Christian, Probably not. Having the proper code is a really nice first step. I agree. To respond to some of the other discussion, the purpose of the new codes was to provide more feedback to address selection. As I think Pekka said in an earlier discussion, relying on transport layer timeouts

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-30 Thread Christian Huitema
> If I am not wrong, if we wanted the router to send the correct > prefix to the host in the ICMP message, we will have to change > the format of the ICMPv6 Destination Unreachable message. > > Currently, we just have 4 bytes unused in the message format and > this prefix can't fit in there. > >

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-30 Thread Mukesh . Gupta
sh (Nokia-NET/MtView); > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes > > > > FWIW, I have no objection to specifying a new code, but I > don't think > > adding a "working address" option is feasible or useful. > > I

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-30 Thread Christian Huitema
> FWIW, I have no objection to specifying a new code, but I don't think > adding a "working address" option is feasible or useful. I understand that adding a new option is much harder than adding a new code point. I am fine with the new code point. > On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Christian Huitema wrote:

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-30 Thread Pekka Savola
FWIW, I have no objection to specifying a new code, but I don't think adding a "working address" option is feasible or useful. On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Christian Huitema wrote: > In a site exit scenario, ingress filtering is performed either at the > ingress interface of a router, or at one of the exi

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-30 Thread marcelo bagnulo
> However, simply choosing an appropriate source address for > the ICMP message might help. > > In a site exit scenario, ingress filtering is performed either at the > ingress interface of a router, or at one of the exit interfaces on the > router. I suggest that the source address of the router's

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-30 Thread Christian Huitema
> > But what do you do when the routers will NOT supply this message? > > Well, if you are trying to implement a multihomed solution and this > solution > involves multiple elements, i guess that you need all of them working > properly. I mean, when you adopt this solution in a multihomed site,

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-30 Thread marcelo bagnulo
> But what do you do when the routers will NOT supply this message? Well, if you are trying to implement a multihomed solution and this solution involves multiple elements, i guess that you need all of them working properly. I mean, when you adopt this solution in a multihomed site, you have to ma

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-30 Thread Pekka Savola
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, marcelo bagnulo wrote: [..] > I agree that a MAY would do it, so that exit routers at multihomed sites can > be configured to support this and hosts within the multihomed site are > upgraded to understand the message But what do you do when the routers will NOT supply this mes

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-30 Thread marcelo bagnulo
the message regards, marcelo > -Mensaje original- > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de Pekka > Savola > Enviado el: viernes, 30 de enero de 2004 15:35 > Para: marcelo bagnulo > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Asunto: RE: IC

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-30 Thread Pekka Savola
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, marcelo bagnulo wrote: > I mean, in the case that the packet is discarded becuase the source address > is not compatible with the ingress filtering, the router that discards the > packets probably knows which are the accepted prefixes, so it would be > interesting to use the me

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-30 Thread marcelo bagnulo
Hi, i have a question about code 5 error: would the ICMP error message contain the suggested source address (or prefix that has to containe the source address) I mean, in the case that the packet is discarded becuase the source address is not compatible with the ingress filtering, the router that

RE: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-29 Thread Mukesh . Gupta
; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 5:55 PM > To: Gupta Mukesh (Nokia-NET/MtView) > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes > > >If the reason for the failure to deliver is administr

Re: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-29 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
If the reason for the failure to deliver is administrative prohibition, e.g., a "firewall filter", the Code field is set to 1. If the reason for the failure to deliver is that packets with this source address is not allowed due to ingress filtering policies, the Code field is set to

Re: ICMPv6: New destination unreachable codes

2004-01-29 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
> I have added 2 new destination unreachable codes that > Bob suggested in the ICMPv6 draft. > (me and Bob had a discussion offline and the text is > outcome of that) > Here is the new text. I would appreciate everyone's > comments. > == >ICMPv6 Fields: > >Type 1 >