Re: Node requirements: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-03.txt

2009-09-08 Thread Ole Troan
picking up an old thread. [...] >  - DHCP and stateless autoconf. This document is probably not the >   right place to discuss the M&O bits, but IMO this document should >   say more about DHCP vs. stateless and the issues surrounding when >   to implement one or the other. Not to mandate them. A

RE: Node requirements: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-03.txt

2009-07-22 Thread john.loughney
-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-03.txt > - proper status of this document (info vs. BCP) and whether this >document can update any existing RFC There's a standards-track beast defined in section 3.2 of RFC2026 as an "Applicability Statement": " An Applicability Statemen

Re: Node requirements: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-03.txt

2009-07-21 Thread Bob Hinden
Brian, - proper status of this document (info vs. BCP) and whether this document can update any existing RFC There's a standards-track beast defined in section 3.2 of RFC2026 as an "Applicability Statement": " An Applicability Statement specifies how, and under what circumstances, o

Re: Node requirements: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-03.txt

2009-07-21 Thread Tim Chown
A handful of comments. Perhaps Section 12 of any -04 version can update it's 'open issue' list to reflect what's below and anything else on the table? And are we content that the other things listed currently in section 12 have been answered? Can we say anything stronger for MLDv2 support? It

RE: Node requirements: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-03.txt

2009-07-21 Thread Julien Abeille (jabeille)
f Brian E Carpenter > Sent: mardi 21 juillet 2009 03:29 > To: Thomas Narten > Cc: ipv6@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Node requirements: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-03.txt > > > > - proper status of this document (info vs. BCP) and whether this > >document can update an

Re: Node requirements: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-03.txt

2009-07-20 Thread Brian E Carpenter
> - proper status of this document (info vs. BCP) and whether this >document can update any existing RFC There's a standards-track beast defined in section 3.2 of RFC2026 as an "Applicability Statement": " An Applicability Statement specifies how, and under what circumstances, one or mo

Re: Node requirements: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-03.txt

2009-07-20 Thread Bob Hinden
Thomas, Firstly, thanks for taking this on! Of course, 2462 is widely implemented, and I'd strongly recommend that devices should implement it (though I can think of some exceptions). But we do have a fundmanental question about whether the IPv6 Node Requirements document can make new requireme

RE: Node requirements: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-03.txt

2009-07-20 Thread Manfredi, Albert E
> -Original Message- > From: Thomas Narten [mailto:nar...@us.ibm.com] > How's this to drive the point home further... 2461 (Neighbor > Discovery) is NOT mandated. It is only listed as a SHOULD. (This is > because some link layers might not need all parts of ND. But this has > turned out t

Re: Node requirements: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-03.txt

2009-07-20 Thread Thomas Narten
writes: > Thomas, > > raises an intersting point. This document (and RFC 4294) mandate > > (MUST) that hosts implement stateless autoconfiguration. This > > despite that this document is only informational, and no where in > > standards track RFCs is stateless autoconf mandated. This tak

RE: Node requirements: draft-ietf-6man-node-req-bis-03.txt

2009-07-20 Thread Greg.Rabil
Thomas, > raises an intersting point. This document (and RFC 4294) mandate > (MUST) that hosts implement stateless autoconfiguration. This > despite that this document is only informational, and no where in > standards track RFCs is stateless autoconf mandated. This takes us How about RFC