RE: RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-28 Thread Templin, Fred L
: Thursday, August 24, 2006 6:06 PM To: Templin, Fred L; Rao Satyanarayana-W60007; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: IETF IPv6 Mailing List Subject: Re: RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6 Fred, >OK, I see now. When Tim first contacted me he came >across with a certain sense of naivety If you wish to

RE: RE: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-25 Thread Tony Hain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Tony, please see my in-line comments: > > >> I think the questions should be is there merit in the > >> proposal? > > > >That is true, but your section 3 does not establish that merit. > > Hi Tony, just a reminder from an earlier e-mail that we will be seeking to > p

RE: RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-25 Thread Templin, Fred L
Correcting somewhat what I said earlier, the proposal calls for not only RS/RA modifications but also three new ICMPv6 error messages/codes, and one new notification message which carrys prefixes using the PIO format. But, as I said earlier, it is not just about RS/RA in its current manifestation.

RE: RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-25 Thread Templin, Fred L
, Fred L; Rao Satyanarayana-W60007; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: IETF IPv6 Mailing List Subject: Re: RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6 Fred, >OK, I see now. When Tim first contacted me he came >across with a certain sense of naivety If you wish to remain focused on the issue at hand (namely, the

Re: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-24 Thread timbeck04
>From: Jari Arkko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2006/08/25 Fri AM 01:11:55 CDT >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: IETF IPv6 Mailing List >Subject: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6 >Tim, > >Its probably best if you now update your draft with a better description >of what scenario you are looking at, detai

Re: RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-24 Thread timbeck04
Fred, >OK, I see now. When Tim first contacted me he came >across with a certain >sense of naivety If you wish to remain focused on the issue at hand (namely, the merit of the proposal we have placed before the group), please do so. As for such impressions about me, please keep them off this l

Re: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-24 Thread timbeck04
Hi Thomas, please see my comments in-line: >From: Thomas Narten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2006/08/24 Thu AM 10:26:19 CDT >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: Ralph Droms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Durand,Alain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, IETF IPv6 Mailing List >Subject: Re: Prefix Delegation u

Re: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-24 Thread timbeck04
>From: Alexandru Petrescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2006/08/24 Thu AM 07:41:21 CDT >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: Tony Hain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'Ralph Droms' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Durand, Alain'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'IETF IPv6 Mailing List' >Subject: Re: Prefix Delegation using

Re: RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-24 Thread timbeck04
>From: "Templin, Fred L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2006/08/23 Wed PM 07:12:23 CDT >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: IETF IPv6 Mailing List >Subject: RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6 >Tim, > >I took a look at the I-D and it reads well. Hi Fred, thanks.

Re: RE: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-24 Thread timbeck04
Hi Tony, please see my in-line comments: >> I think the questions should be is there merit in the >> proposal? > >That is true, but your section 3 does not establish that merit. Hi Tony, just a reminder from an earlier e-mail that we will be seeking to provide additional detail in section 3 in

RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-24 Thread Templin, Fred L
> -Original Message- > From: Templin, Fred L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: IETF IPv6 Mailing List > Subject: RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6 > > Tim, > > I took a look at the I-D and it

RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-24 Thread Rao Satyanarayana-W60007
age- > From: Templin, Fred L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: IETF IPv6 Mailing List > Subject: RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6 > > Tim, > > I took a look at the I-D and it reads well. I see that y

Re: RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-23 Thread timbeck04
n'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'IETF IPv6 Mailing List' >Subject: RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >Tim - SLAAC and DHCPv6 are fundamentally different ways to assign >> >addresses. >> >> Ralph th

RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-23 Thread Templin, Fred L
Tim, I took a look at the I-D and it reads well. I see that you (and the co-authors) are asking RSs to carry PIOs by way of requesting specific prefixes, and that you are asking for new flag bits (the 'P' bit in the RS message 'Reserved' field and the 'D' bit in the PIO 'Reserved1' field) which wo

Re: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-23 Thread timbeck04
>From: Ralph Droms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2006/08/23 Wed AM 06:23:39 CDT >To: "<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: "Durand, Alain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Syam Madanapalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, IETF IPv6 Mailing List >Subject: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6 >Some m

Re: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-23 Thread timbeck04
gt;> spec (RFC 3633), and IPv6 PD requirements spec (RFC 3769). >> >> If only DHCPv6 PD is to be standardized by the IETF, please explain >> why RFC 3769 was ever written. >> >> To me, implicit in the publication of 3769 is the notion that ANY >> mecha

Re: RE: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-23 Thread timbeck04
>From: Rao Satyanarayana-W60007 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2006/08/23 Wed PM 05:54:07 CDT >To: Ralph Droms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: "Durand, Alain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, IETF IPv6 Mailing List >Subject: RE: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6 Satya, You put this so much bet

Re: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-23 Thread timbeck04
>From: Jari Arkko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2006/08/23 Wed AM 07:24:59 CDT >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: Ralph Droms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, IETF IPv6 Mailing List >Subject: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6 >Tim, > >>Given that there is a historical precedent for being able to do something via >>m

Re: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-23 Thread timbeck04
>From: Ole Troan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2006/08/23 Wed AM 12:57:16 CDT >To: Syam Madanapalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: IETF IPv6 Mailing List >Subject: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6 >I don't understand the rationale for this work either. Hi Ole, thanks for the reply. Sorry it took me so

Re: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-23 Thread timbeck04
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> >> IETF IPv6 Mailing List >> >>>Subject: RE: RE: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6 >> >> >>>>Thanks for the quick e-mail. As one of the co-authors, I'd in >>>>turn like to reply (and state that ICMP

RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-23 Thread Bernie Volz \(volz\)
I think another point is that if they're concerned about having to run a separate DHCPv6 client "process" to handle PD (as was I think discussed in an earlier email), there's nothing in the DHCPv6 specification that says you can not implement DHCPv6 in the IPv6 kernel. If PD is integral to your net

RE: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-23 Thread Tony Hain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Tim - SLAAC and DHCPv6 are fundamentally different ways to assign > >addresses. > > Ralph thanks, I'm glad you (realize that) see my point. There is more than > one IETF standardized way to do host addressing. Do you believe it is > good that more than one IETF standar

Re: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-22 Thread timbeck04
69 was written in the first place. Best Regards, Tim Rom 8:28 > >- Ralph > >On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:48 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> From: "Durand, Alain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Date: 2006/08/22 Tue PM 10:31:10 CDT >>> To: [EMAI

Re: Re: RE: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-22 Thread timbeck04
TED]>, IETF IPv6 Mailing List >Subject: Re: RE: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6 >Hi Alain, > >Thanks for the quick e-mail. As one of the co-authors, I'd in turn like to >reply (and state that ICMPv6 PD is ANOTHER way to do IPv6 PD, NOT a >replacement for

Re: RE: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-22 Thread timbeck04
Hi Alain, Thanks for the quick e-mail. As one of the co-authors, I'd in turn like to reply (and state that ICMPv6 PD is ANOTHER way to do IPv6 PD, NOT a replacement for the existing mechanism). FWIW, please see comments in-line: >From: "Durand, Alain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2006/08/22 Tue P

Re: RE: RE: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-22 Thread timbeck04
>From: "Durand, Alain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2006/08/22 Tue PM 10:31:10 CDT >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Syam Madanapalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, IETF IPv6 Mailing List >Subject: RE: RE: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6 > >> Thanks for the qui

RE: RE: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

2006-08-22 Thread Durand, Alain
> Thanks for the quick e-mail. As one of the co-authors, I'd in > turn like to reply (and state that ICMPv6 PD is ANOTHER way > to do IPv6 PD, NOT a replacement for the existing mechanism). > FWIW, please see comments in-line: This is probably the crux of the issue. I believe that having mult