Re: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-28 Thread Greg Daley
Hi Tim, Tim Chown wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 09:59:20AM -0800, Christian Huitema wrote: It worked fine when we ran it at IETF51 in London. You do mean DHCPv6 for DNS configuration, right? Many platforms do not support address assignment via DHCPv6... I think the idea is for DNS resolver dis

Re: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-28 Thread Tim Chown
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 09:59:20AM -0800, Christian Huitema wrote: > > > > It worked fine when we ran it at IETF51 in London. > > You do mean DHCPv6 for DNS configuration, right? Many platforms do not > support address assignment via DHCPv6... I think the idea is for DNS resolver discovery... bu

RE: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-28 Thread Christian Huitema
> > This keeps popping up and we don't seem to be converging. Just before > > reading this thread I contacted some people about trying DHCPv6 on the > > MSP IETF network. I have no strong preference (yet) for either DHCPv6 > > or RA. Let's just give DHCPv6 a try. > > > > What do you think of this i

RE: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-28 Thread matthew . ford
Ronald, > This keeps popping up and we don't seem to be converging. Just before > reading this thread I contacted some people about trying DHCPv6 on the > MSP IETF network. I have no strong preference (yet) for either DHCPv6 > or RA. Let's just give DHCPv6 a try. > > What do you think of this id

Re: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-23 Thread Ralph Droms
Following up on Pekka's e-mail, the DNS configuration problem now belongs to the dnsop WG, and followups to this thread should be posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most (if not all) of the issues from this thread have already been discussed at the dnsop WG meeting in Vienna and on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Plea

RE: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-23 Thread Brian McGehee
A student in my IPv6 class this week made the comment regarding IPv6: "It seems like the paint isn't dry yet!" IPv6 needs stability and constant changes scare adopters away. I agree DNS should be a component of RA's. But I feel strongly that we need to stop making changes and show the industry

Re: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-23 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 23 okt 2003, at 9:39, Tim Chown wrote: It will be interesting to see what the Moonv6 work may have to say in this area, as the issue I'm sure will have been encountered there. There are still very few people working in networks where IPv6 transport DNS lookup is a requirement, hence this i

Re: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-23 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:03:12 +0100, > Tim Chown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > There seem to be a handful DHCPv6 implementations, but no stripped down >> > DHCPv6 Lite implementations yet (the Lite version not maintaining state >> > for IP leases etc). >> >> I tried KAME's dhcp6[sc]. I

Re: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-23 Thread Ralph Droms
The Cisco IOS DHCPv6 server does both stateless DHCP and PD. The two functions can be configured independently, so stateless DHCP can be configured with just a couple of CLI commands. Of course, the PD code is still in the IOS footprint... The primary problem at this point is deploy a client in h

Re: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-23 Thread Pekka Savola
Hi, Could we drop this thread here? :-) IMHO, it's no use to try chase down this particular rathole in *this* working group as well. Just state that the discovery/configuration of DNS is outside of the scope of this specification. Additions can be defined separately in DNSOP or other WGs if

Re: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-23 Thread Tim Chown
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 11:40:29AM +0200, Ronald van der Pol wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 08:39:37 +0100, Tim Chown wrote: > > > Iljitsch, I agree. This has been discussed a lot on the dnsop list... > > there is currently no consensus about DHCPv6(Lite) vs RA-based discovery. > > This keeps

Re: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-23 Thread Ronald van der Pol
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 08:39:37 +0100, Tim Chown wrote: > Iljitsch, I agree. This has been discussed a lot on the dnsop list... > there is currently no consensus about DHCPv6(Lite) vs RA-based discovery. This keeps popping up and we don't seem to be converging. Just before reading this thread

Re: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-23 Thread Jaehoon Jeong
Hi all, There is another draft for RA-based DNS Discovery. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-jeong-hmipv6-dns-optimization-01.txt I am one of RA-camp :-), but I agree DHCPv6 is useful in many cases. However, in wireless networks, such as HMIPv6, NEMO and MANET connected to the Internet, RA

Re: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-23 Thread Tim Chown
Iljitsch, I agree. This has been discussed a lot on the dnsop list... there is currently no consensus about DHCPv6(Lite) vs RA-based discovery. It will be interesting to see what the Moonv6 work may have to say in this area, as the issue I'm sure will have been encountered there. There are sti

RE: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-23 Thread Soohong Daniel Park
Hello itojun >Hesham's statement does not reject RA-based DNS discovery, it >seems to me. there's nothing wrong with the above-quoted line. Yes, I didn't say something was wrong but considered one of issue. Regards Daniel (Soohong Daniel Park) Mobile Platform Laboratory, SAMSUNG Electronics

Re: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-23 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 23 okt 2003, at 8:46, Soliman Hesham wrote: Why is there no mechanism to learn DNS addresses through router advertisements? => A couple of years ago there was a DT that compared several different ways of achieving this. The proposal you mentioned was one of those addressed. The DT settled on a

RE: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-23 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
> >DHCPv6 allows for DNS configuration in hosts among other things. > Please don't definitely say that. As I said, RA based DNS discovery > is work in progress. Hesham's statement does not reject RA-based DNS discovery, it seems to me. there's nothing wrong with the above-quoted l

RE: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-23 Thread Soohong Daniel Park
Hello Hesham >DHCPv6 allows for DNS configuration in hosts among other things. Please don't definitely say that. As I said, RA based DNS discovery is work in progress. Regards Daniel (Soohong Daniel Park) Mobile Platform Laboratory, SAMSUNG Electronics ---

RE: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-22 Thread Soohong Daniel Park
itsch van Beijnum > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration > > > I haven't been on this list very long so I'm unaware of the > reasons to > revisit 2461 and I don't k

RE: "RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-22 Thread Soliman Hesham
> I haven't been on this list very long so I'm unaware of the > reasons to > revisit 2461 and I don't know whether the following issue has been > discussed, but: > > Why is there no mechanism to learn DNS addresses through router > advertisements? > > It is currently possible to att

"RFC 2461bis" issue: DNS configuration

2003-10-22 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
I haven't been on this list very long so I'm unaware of the reasons to revisit 2461 and I don't know whether the following issue has been discussed, but: Why is there no mechanism to learn DNS addresses through router advertisements? It is currently possible to attach a host to a link with one