Re: RFC2461(bis): normativeness of protocol constants

2007-01-16 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 08:50:38 -0500, > James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> This is more than strictly required for interoperability. > I think that's the key point. It's very important to make sure that > the things marked as "MUST" or "MUST NOT" are actually requirements > for i

Re: RFC2461(bis): normativeness of protocol constants

2007-01-05 Thread James Carlson
Pekka Savola writes: > This is more than strictly required for interoperability. I think that's the key point. It's very important to make sure that the things marked as "MUST" or "MUST NOT" are actually requirements for interoperability or anticipated development, and not just needless stricture

Re: RFC2461(bis): normativeness of protocol constants

2007-01-04 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Brian Haberman wrote: Given that 2461 (and 2461bis) are DS, I would find it very disturbing if implementers did not treat the entire document as normative. In order to be compliant with a spec (any spec), an implementation MUST adhere to all aspects including protocol consta

RE: RFC2461(bis): normativeness of protocol constants

2007-01-04 Thread Tim Enos
Good afternoon, >From: Hesham Soliman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/01/04 Thu AM 01:24:59 CST >To: 'Brian Haberman' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'Pekka Savola' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: ipv6@ietf.org >Subject: RE: RFC2461(bis): norma

RE: RFC2461(bis): normativeness of protocol constants

2007-01-04 Thread Hesham Soliman
> => I agree with this. Pekka himself mentioned that this is > not a compliant behviour according to 2461. A contant is a > *contant*, which means it doesn't change :) => I obviously meant constant :) Hesham > Variables are also given max and min values, which by the > english mean

RE: RFC2461(bis): normativeness of protocol constants

2007-01-03 Thread Hesham Soliman
Catching up on email.. > Pekka Savola wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Speaking of RFC 2461(bis), some time ago I noticed the following > > behaviour with a popular router implementation (a support > case is open > > on this): for forwarded packets, it takes up to 24 hours (in recent > > software

Re: RFC2461(bis): normativeness of protocol constants

2007-01-01 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2006-12-28 15:04, Brian Haberman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Pekka Savola wrote: Hi, Speaking of RFC 2461(bis), some time ago I noticed the following behaviour with a popular router implementation (a support case is open on this): for forwarded packets, it takes u

Re: RFC2461(bis): normativeness of protocol constants

2006-12-28 Thread Brian Haberman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Pekka Savola wrote: > Hi, > > Speaking of RFC 2461(bis), some time ago I noticed the following > behaviour with a popular router implementation (a support case is open > on this): for forwarded packets, it takes up to 24 hours (in recent > software

RFC2461(bis): normativeness of protocol constants

2006-12-23 Thread Pekka Savola
Hi, Speaking of RFC 2461(bis), some time ago I noticed the following behaviour with a popular router implementation (a support case is open on this): for forwarded packets, it takes up to 24 hours (in recent software versions, up to 20 minutes) for the hardware forwarding to notice that an IP