Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-16 Thread Bill Manning
% => At least you and I agree FWIW :) % Perhaps I missed this discussion, but I can't see % why they should be put in the global DNS. Unless % people are trying to prove that these local addresses % don't require a two face DNS. It's a lost cause I think ;) % % Hesham of course, it is i

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-15 Thread Hans Kruse
The suggested language seems fine to me (aka just say yes...). --On Thursday, April 15, 2004 09:36 +0200 Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stephen Sprunk wrote: Suggested text for 7.0: and PTR records for Local IPv6 addresses MAY be installed in the global DNS at the option

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-15 Thread Bob Hinden
Brian, At 12:36 AM 4/15/2004, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Stephen Sprunk wrote: ... > Suggested text for 7.0: > > and PTR records for Local IPv6 addresses MAY be installed in the global > DNS at the option of the site to which they are assigned. It is expected > that most sites will not make u

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-15 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 08:08:49 +0300 (EEST), > Pekka Savola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Note that the latter paragraph intentionally excludes the discussion > of other kinds of limited-scope addresses from discussion, i.e., it > only mentions why adding link-locals is bad. Yeah, I know.

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-15 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Stephen Sprunk wrote: > > Thus spake "Brian Haberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Margaret Wasserman wrote: > > > This would appear to be incompatible with the IANA considerations > > > section that says: > > > > > >>If deemed > > >>appropriate, the authority may also consist of m

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-15 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Stephen Sprunk wrote: ... > Suggested text for 7.0: > > and PTR records for Local IPv6 addresses MAY be installed in the global > DNS at the option of the site to which they are assigned. It is expected > that most sites will not make use of this option, but some sites may find > benefits in

RE: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-14 Thread Tony Hain
u look at the case 1) below, that for certainty is a case which > would impact third parties. > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Pekka Savola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:57 PM > > > To: Tony Hain > > >

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-12 Thread Kurt Erik Lindqvist
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> Dan >> Lanciani >> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 1:16 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: Response to AD comments on >> draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr- >> 03.txt >> >> Kurt Erik Lindqvist <[EMAIL

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-12 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 12-apr-04, at 15:15, Pekka Savola wrote: Again, unless there is impact to a 3rd party, putting local use addresses in the global DNS is none of the IETF's business. If you look at the case 1) below, that for certainty is a case which would impact third parties. 1) putting in local addresses

RE: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-12 Thread Dan Lanciani
an Lanciani [EMAIL PROTECTED] |> > -Original Message- |> > From: Pekka Savola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |> > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:57 PM |> > To: Tony Hain |> > Cc: 'Dan Lanciani'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] |> > Subj

RE: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-12 Thread Pekka Savola
Original Message- > > From: Pekka Savola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:57 PM > > To: Tony Hain > > Cc: 'Dan Lanciani'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr- > >

RE: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-12 Thread Tony Hain
as I think one might want to use global addresses instead.. > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Dan > > > Lanciani > > > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 1:16 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PR

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-09 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake "Brian Haberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Margaret Wasserman wrote: > > This would appear to be incompatible with the IANA considerations > > section that says: > > > >>If deemed > >>appropriate, the authority may also consist of multiple organizations > >>performi

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-09 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake "Kurt Erik Lindqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 2004-04-09, at 07.19, Dan Lanciani wrote: > > |=> At least you and I agree FWIW :) > > |Perhaps I missed this discussion, but I can't see > > |why they should be put in the global DNS. > > > > One might want to build an overlay network where

RE: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-09 Thread Pekka Savola
alf Of Dan > > Lanciani > > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 1:16 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr- > > 03.txt > > > > Kurt Erik Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >

RE: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-09 Thread Tony Hain
Of Dan > Lanciani > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 1:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr- > 03.txt > > Kurt Erik Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > |> |=> At least you and I agree FWIW :)

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-09 Thread Dan Lanciani
Kurt Erik Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> |=> At least you and I agree FWIW :) |> |Perhaps I missed this discussion, but I can't see |> |why they should be put in the global DNS. |> |> One might want to build an overlay network where consenting sites know |> how |> to reach each other by

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-09 Thread Mark Smith
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004 11:21:52 +0200 Kurt Erik Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 2004-04-09, at 07.19, Dan Lanciani wrote: > > > > > |=> At least you and I agree FWIW :) > > |Perhaps I missed this discussion, but I can't see > > |why th

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-09 Thread Kurt Erik Lindqvist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-04-09, at 07.19, Dan Lanciani wrote: > > |=> At least you and I agree FWIW :) > |Perhaps I missed this discussion, but I can't see > |why they should be put in the global DNS. > > One might want to build an overlay network where consenting si

RE: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-08 Thread Dan Lanciani
"Soliman Hesham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > That is why it is stated as "are not expected to be in the | > global DNS". | > There will be issues caused by them being advertised yet not | > reachable. | > Would you rather see a stronger statement against inclusion in the | > global DNS? | |=>

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-08 Thread Pekka Savola
On Fri, 9 Apr 2004, JINMEI Tatuya / [ISO-2022-JP] [EMAIL PROTECTED]@C#:H wrote: > In addition to this, I'd also like to note that > draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-04.txt recommends limited-scope > addresses not be in the global DNS: > > 2.1 Limited-scope Addresses > >The IPv6 addressing

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-08 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 14:00:06 -0400, > "Soliman Hesham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >but >> that didn't seem to be the consensus of the WG. > => At least you and I agree FWIW :) > Perhaps I missed this discussion, but I can't see > why they should be put in the global DNS. Unless > p

RE: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-08 Thread Soliman Hesham
> That is why it is stated as "are not expected to be in the > global DNS". > There will be issues caused by them being advertised yet not > reachable. > Would you rather see a stronger statement against inclusion in the > global DNS? => I think this makes sense. Something like "SHOULD N

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-08 Thread Brian Haberman
Hi Hesham, Soliman Hesham wrote: Hi Brian, One question/comment below: > > (1) This draft doesn't mention the reverse DNS tree. Is > it expected > > that whatever registry assigns these values will also > populate the > > reverse DNS tree? Or not? > > Given the follow-on

RE: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-08 Thread Soliman Hesham
Hi Brian, One question/comment below: > > (1) This draft doesn't mention the reverse DNS tree. Is > it expected > > that whatever registry assigns these values will also > populate the > > reverse DNS tree? Or not? > > Given the follow-on discussion of this point, how abo

Re: Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-08 Thread Rob Austein
At Thu, 08 Apr 2004 07:34:41 -0400, Brian Haberman wrote: > > Given the follow-on discussion of this point, how about the following > replacement text for section 7.0: > > records (both forward and reverse) for Local IPv6 addresses > are not expected to be installed in the global

Response to AD comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt

2004-04-08 Thread Brian Haberman
Margaret Wasserman wrote: > Hi All, > > I've completed my AD evaluation of > draft-ietf-ipv6-unique-local-addr-03.txt. My comments (attached > below) include a few substantive issues that I would like to discuss > with the WG before sending this draft to IETF last call. Thoughts? > > I have also