RE: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-09 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
f.org Subject: Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote: > Tatuya, > > If it's too late, it's fine. On a different note, did you catch the > fact from Vlad who wanted "should" changed to "SHOULD" in a paragraph

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-09 Thread Vlad Yasevich
Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote: > Tatuya, > > If it's too late, it's fine. On a different note, did you catch the > fact from Vlad who wanted "should" changed to "SHOULD" in a paragraph > on page 18 of 2462bis? Further, we are also adding that a "should not" > in the same paragraph be changed to "

RE: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-09 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
ant & Wes -Original Message- From: JINMEI Tatuya / [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 1:09 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: Vlad Yasevich; ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO At Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:22:16 -0400, "H

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-09 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:22:16 -0400, "Hemant Singh (shemant)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tatuya, please note another proposed change by Vlad to 2462bis and also > Vlad agrees that a change regarding skipping DAD should be made to > 2462bis as per this statement from Vlad: "I would agree to adding

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-09 Thread Vlad Yasevich
Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote: > > IMO this is already fairly well spelled out in 2461bis. There was talk > earlier on the list of adding something along the list of: > This document RECOMMENDS that implementations use default values > specified > here. > > Since we are working on how t

RE: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-09 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
skipping DAD is not recommended." -Original Message- From: Vlad Yasevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:45 AM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO Hi Hemnat Hemant Singh (shemant) wr

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-09 Thread Vlad Yasevich
Hi Hemnat Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote: > We also told the modem vendor their behavior is compliant with ND > RFC but since bandwidth is limited in a broadband deployment in the > upsteam direction (modem to the aggregation router), having each modem > issue 9 DAD's before the modem got online wa

RE: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-09 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
Vlad, Please see in line below with "". -Original Message- From: Vlad Yasevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 3:33 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO Hi Hemant Hemant Sing

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-06 Thread Vlad Yasevich
Hi Hemant Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote: > Vlad, > > > I believe that you are reading too much into section 3.1. That section > simply does a comparison to IPv4. It does not mandate anything and > doesn't not specify any specific beavhior. That is saved for later. > > Totally agree with you.

RE: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-06 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
Vlad, Thanks very much for the review. Please see our responses in line below against "". -Original Message- From: Vlad Yasevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 2:39 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: Sending traffic to defa

FW: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-06 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
-Original Message- From: Hemant Singh (shemant) Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 2:21 PM To: 'Vlad Yasevich' Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: RE: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO Vlad, Thanks very much for the review. Please see our responses in line bel

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-06 Thread Julien Laganier
On Friday 06 July 2007 04:25, JINMEI Tatuya / wrote: > At Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:49:21 -0400, > > "Hemant Singh (shemant)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Have you tested BSD by sending it an RA with no > > PIO and M and O bits set so that BSD initiates > > DHCPv6 ? Once BSD host is online with D

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-05 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:49:21 -0400, "Hemant Singh (shemant)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you tested BSD by sending it an RA with no PIO and M and O bits > set so that BSD initiates DHCPv6 ? Once BSD host is online with DHCPv6 > completed, issue a ping from BSD machine to another IPv6 machine

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-05 Thread Vlad Yasevich
Hi Hemant Here is my review of your draft. Comments are inside the blocks. -vlad 1. Introduction IPv6 host data forwarding and address resolution is complex. For example, RFC 2461 [ND] (section 3.1) implies that if the RA received by the host does not advertise any prefix, then

RE: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-05 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
Yasevich; ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO At Tue, 3 Jul 2007 10:56:32 -0400, "Hemant Singh (shemant)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In this regard, bullets 2 and 3 in Section 2 of our I-D show the issue > hosts have when hosts in

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-04 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Tue, 3 Jul 2007 10:56:32 -0400, "Hemant Singh (shemant)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In this regard, bullets 2 and 3 in Section 2 of our I-D show the issue > hosts have when hosts incorrectly always add a directly connected route > to the /64 prefix from an address assigned to an interface, ev

RE: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-03 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
Markku, Please see in line below against "". -Original Message- From: Markku Savela [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 11:43 AM To: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO > Well, this is exactly the prob

RE: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-03 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
Hi Vlad, Please see in line below against "". -Original Message- From: Vlad Yasevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 11:42 AM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: Ole Troan (otroan); Wes Beebee (wbeebee); ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: Sending traffic to defa

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-03 Thread Markku Savela
> Well, this is exactly the problem with host implementations we are > concerned with. The prefix list is being populated with a prefix when > the list should not be populated. As an implementor IPv6 stack, I say that I had no problem understanding the L & A bits in prefix announcements. Just

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-03 Thread Vlad Yasevich
Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote: > Ole, > > Let's talk specifics, not generics. Of course, we know about section 5.2 > of 2461bis. > > Snipped is following text from Introduction section of our I-D as to > what we think about section 5.2 of 2461bis: > >Sections 5.2 and 7.2.2 imply that the host

RE: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-03 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
ve been written more clearly. - Hemant & Wes -Original Message- From: Ole Troan (otroan) Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:27 AM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: Vlad Yasevich; Wes Beebee (wbeebee); ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO > Let

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-03 Thread Ole Troan
> Let's talk specifics, not generics. Of course, we know about section 5.2 > of 2461bis. > > Snipped is following text from Introduction section of our I-D as to > what we think about section 5.2 of 2461bis: > >Sections 5.2 and 7.2.2 imply that the host performs >address resolution before t

RE: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-03 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
cy missed this behavior. "5.2. Conceptual Sending Algorithm" explains how a host should behave in this case. /ot > -Original Message- > From: Vlad Yasevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:38 AM > To: Wes Beebee (wbeebee) > Cc: ipv6@ietf

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-03 Thread Ole Troan
orithm" explains how a host should behave in this case. /ot > -Original Message- > From: Vlad Yasevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:38 AM > To: Wes Beebee (wbeebee) > Cc: ipv6@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Sending traffic to default router

RE: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-07-03 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
--- From: Vlad Yasevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:38 AM To: Wes Beebee (wbeebee) Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO Wes Beebee (wbeebee) wrote: > Section 3.1 of RFC 2461 describes intended behavior when a host > recei

Re: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-06-30 Thread Vlad Yasevich
Wes Beebee (wbeebee) wrote: Section 3.1 of RFC 2461 describes intended behavior when a host receives an RA without an advertised prefix: "Multiple prefixes can be associated with the same link. By default, hosts learn all on-link prefixes from Router Advertisements. However,

RE: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-06-29 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
ways can one learn about on-link prefixes. Thanks. Hemant -Original Message- From: Wes Beebee (wbeebee) Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 9:38 AM To: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO Section 3.1 of RFC 2461 describes intended behavior when a host

Sending traffic to default router when RA has no PIO

2007-06-29 Thread Wes Beebee \(wbeebee\)
Section 3.1 of RFC 2461 describes intended behavior when a host receives an RA without an advertised prefix: "Multiple prefixes can be associated with the same link. By default, hosts learn all on-link prefixes from Router Advertisements. However, routers may be configured to o