RE: routers - (was: Re: "ROUTERS" vs. "routers")

2003-12-03 Thread Tony Hain
Erik Nordmark wrote: > > Hosts with embedded gateway > > functions, as described in RFC 1122, section 3.3.4.2 under: "Weak ES > > Model" also qaulify as routers, and it doesn't matter at all what > > different routers advertise - they are all still just *routers*. > > That wouldn't be consistent

Re: routers - (was: Re: "ROUTERS" vs. "routers")

2003-11-26 Thread Erik Nordmark
> Hosts with embedded gateway > functions, as described in RFC 1122, section 3.3.4.2 under: "Weak ES > Model" also qaulify as routers, and it doesn't matter at all what > different routers advertise - they are all still just *routers*. That wouldn't be consistent with the definition of router in

Re: routers - (was: Re: "ROUTERS" vs. "routers")

2003-11-26 Thread Fred Templin
Thanks Matt, I'm going to give things a rest for awhile now and let the dust settle. Have a Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate it. Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matt Crawford wrote: On Nov 26, 2003, at 4:50 PM, Fred Templin wrote: 139 ICMP Node Information Query [Crawford]

Re: routers - (was: Re: "ROUTERS" vs. "routers")

2003-11-26 Thread Matt Crawford
On Nov 26, 2003, at 4:50 PM, Fred Templin wrote: 139 ICMP Node Information Query [Crawford] 140 ICMP Node Information Response [Crawford] I see that the Router Renumbering option is used by RFC 2894, but does anyone know if the other options are used anywher

Re: routers - (was: Re: "ROUTERS" vs. "routers")

2003-11-26 Thread Fred Templin
Responding one final time to my own post, I think we should forget this business about hijacking and just use Matt's document instead: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-name-lookups-10.txt It looks mature, well fleshed out, and has some nice features like references to i

Re: routers - (was: Re: "ROUTERS" vs. "routers")

2003-11-26 Thread Fred Templin
Fred Templin wrote: The two ways I see to do this are to either specify a new IPv6 ND option (call it a "Type II Router Solicitation" for lack of a better name) or to add bits to the existing IPv6 Router Soliciation message (e.g., in the "Reserved" field) that indicate the type of information

Re: routers - (was: Re: "ROUTERS" vs. "routers")

2003-11-26 Thread Fred Templin
Pekka, I meant only what I said - nodes should be able to selectively solicit at least two different classes of information from routers. (Perhaps there will be even more classes of information in the future; I don't know). Some routers might advertise only prefix/autoconfig information, so they m

Re: routers - (was: Re: "ROUTERS" vs. "routers")

2003-11-26 Thread Pekka Savola
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Fred Templin wrote: > However, the message that must not be lost in the terminology shuffle > is that it very much *does* matter that nodes be able to selectively > solicit at least two different classes of information from routers: > > 1) Classical prefix/autoconfig informa

routers - (was: Re: "ROUTERS" vs. "routers")

2003-11-26 Thread Fred Templin
As I said in my last message, my goal was to get a message out and not push new terminology. I agree with Pekka that it doesn't matter at all whether a router has just one interface or hundreds; it is still a router. (In fact, this is nearly the exact response I received when I asked a related q