RE: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2006-01-20 Thread Manfredi, Albert E
etation in the past, and so be it. Bert > -Original Message- > From: Bob Hinden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:24 PM > To: JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉; IPv6 WG > Subject: Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format > > One more thi

Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Hinden
One more thing, On Jan 20, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: They both use the same 24-bit OUI values. It looks to me like IEEE decided to deprecate the name MAC-48. Why IEEE choose to have two different ways to create EUI-64 from these 48-bit identifiers is a mystery to me. As

Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Hinden
Before submitting the new text, I went back and tried to find out what the difference is between an MAC-48 and an EUI-48. In the document: http://standards.ieee.org/regauth/oui/tutorials/UseOfEUI.html I found the following: "The (obsolete label) MAC-48 is a concatenation of a 24-bit OU

Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Hinden
Hi, It's only a note at the end of an appendix, but I wouldn't object to removing the last sentence if others are troubled by it. The intent was to provide some advice to someone writing an IPv6 over specification. I concur that the last sentence should be removed. It doesn't help to clari

RE: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2006-01-19 Thread Durand, Alain
>>> that uses IEEE EUI-48 and MAC-48 identifiers on the same link, >>> the >>> 0xFF and 0xFF values could be used to convert the EUI-48 >>> identifiers >>> for use as IPv6 interface identifiers to avoid any potential for >>> duplicate interface identifiers. >> >> I said 'personall

Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2006-01-19 Thread Bob Hinden
Jinmei, On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:40 PM, JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:54:51 -0800, Bob Hinden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Here is the text I propose to send to the RFC-Editor to resolve the issue. Take a look and let me know it is is OK. I personally support this text with

Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2006-01-18 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:54:51 -0800, > Bob Hinden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Here is the text I propose to send to the RFC-Editor to resolve the > issue. Take a look and let me know it is is OK. I personally support this text with one very minor nit: > Add: > Add to the end of the

Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2006-01-18 Thread Bob Hinden
Hi, Here is the text I propose to send to the RFC-Editor to resolve the issue. Take a look and let me know it is is OK. Thanks, Bob Appendix A: Creating Modified EUI-64 Format Interface Identifiers . Links or Nodes with IEEE 802 48-bit MACs [EUI64] defines a method to cr

Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2006-01-10 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 04:47:57PM +0900, JINMEI Tatuya / [EMAIL PROTECTED]@C#:H wrote: > As I proposed in a follow-up message on this thread > (http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg06052.html), > I'd add a note that just clarifies the mismatch. I've attached a > proposal of cha

Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2006-01-09 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 09:51:48 -0800, > Bob Hinden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Sorry for not responding sooner. No problem, thanks for the response. > I suspect that at the time we thought that an EUI-48 was equivalent > to MAC-48. Actually until you sent your email I wasn't aware of

Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2006-01-09 Thread Bob Hinden
Jinmei, Sorry for not responding sooner. On Dec 9, 2005, at 9:53 AM, ext JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 wrote: I believe this was discussed and clarified before, but I could not find any pointer, so let me ask here... It's regarding the "magic number" of 0xFFFE used in the modified EUI-64 format for th

Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2005-12-18 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:49:00 -0500, > Suresh Krishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I was confused by the same inconsistency couple of years ago and a > thread resulting from my question failed to clarify the choice. I guess > it is something we have to live with. You can look at this t

Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2005-12-14 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 02:36:16AM +0100, Daniel Roesen wrote: > Nevertheless, the significance of bits #57 and #58 are not widely > known to IPv6 operators out there. I cannot count. g-bit is bit #56, not #58. My only excuse for this mail flood is that it's almost 3am local time here. :-Z My apol

Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2005-12-14 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:40:28AM +0100, Daniel Roesen wrote: > "EUI-64" == "IEEE EUI-64" != "modified EUI-64". > > The modification is exactly the flipped bit. See 2.5.1: Please ignore my comment completely. I was thinking of the u/g bits, which are NOT relevant to the FF-FF and FF-FE thing, un

Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2005-12-14 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:40:28AM +0100, Daniel Roesen wrote: > An IPv6 address (not derrived from a globally unique ID like ethernet > MAC) with the the upper 3 host bits != 000 and u or g bit set to 1 > would be wrong. :-) s/upper 3 host bits/upper 3 bits 001 through 111 [except multicast .

Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2005-12-14 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 02:53:07AM +0900, JINMEI Tatuya / [EMAIL PROTECTED]@C#:H wrote: > According to draft-ietf-ipv6-addr-arch-v4-04.txt (or already-published > RFCs), we insert 0xFFFE in the middle of the interface identifier in > order to convert an 48-bit MAC address to the modified EUI-64 fo

Re: why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2005-12-14 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Jinmei, I was confused by the same inconsistency couple of years ago and a thread resulting from my question failed to clarify the choice. I guess it is something we have to live with. You can look at this thread. http://www.atm.tut.fi/list-archive/ipng/msg10039.html Cheers Suresh JINMEI Ta

why 0xFFFE is used in the modified EUI-64 format

2005-12-09 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
I believe this was discussed and clarified before, but I could not find any pointer, so let me ask here... It's regarding the "magic number" of 0xFFFE used in the modified EUI-64 format for the interface identifier of an IPv6 address. According to draft-ietf-ipv6-addr-arch-v4-04.txt (or already-p