Re: [j-nsp] Juniper SFP's

2012-04-24 Thread sthaug
> Does anyone have experience with the compatibility of the generics? We've been using generic SFPs and XFPs in Juniper M and MX routers for many years. Never had a problem except, as others also have noted, not all 1000baseT SFPs work equally well. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethel

Re: [j-nsp] Juniper SFP's

2012-04-24 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote: > Juniper are really pissing me off in regards to their SFP's. Agreed. > Is there ANY actual difference between these SFP's? They are all the same > price from the distributor but they all have different availability - see > number above for

Re: [j-nsp] mx240 vs asr 9006

2012-04-24 Thread sthaug
> The MX using Trio/MPC line cards support inline IPFIX for flow statistics. > No services card required. Just have to be sure your collector supports it. But they still need a (rather expensive) license? Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no _

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Misha Gzirishvili
AFAIK, Proteus has workbook for jncie-sp, and they do bootcamps as well. Check proteus.net for more details. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp

Re: [j-nsp] Juniper SFP's

2012-04-24 Thread Ben Boyd
Skeeve, I can't speak to the differences in the Juniper SFP types, but I can tell you I've seen generics of all kinds work in EXs, MXs, Ms, and SRXs. I've never had one go bad and I've never had JTAC mention the generic-ness of them when opening tickets. YMMV, however. ---

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread bruno.juniper
hello stefan, Do juniper sell JNCIE bootcamp workbook on website? i heard people take the bootcamp will got a lab guide. -- Best Regards, Bruno -- Original -- From: "Stefan Fouant"; Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 09:53 AM To: "Juniper Mail

Re: [j-nsp] mx240 vs asr 9006

2012-04-24 Thread OBrien, Will
I agree with that. I looked at the ASR the other day. the 6 slot chassis is only 4 for line cards. the first two are taken. The 480 allows for six + 2xSCB/RE On Apr 24, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Keegan Holley wrote: > Go with the 480 if you go juniper. The cost difference between chassis is > negligib

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Juniper Maillist
Thanks for the advice. BR// Abdullah Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2012, at 4:53 AM, Stefan Fouant wrote: > On 4/24/2012 8:42 PM, Juniper Maillist wrote: >> Thanks, >> >> Do you recommend taking the bootcamp just before entering the exam (1 week >> before) for well prepared candidates? If

Re: [j-nsp] mx240 vs asr 9006

2012-04-24 Thread Keegan Holley
Go with the 480 if you go juniper. The cost difference between chassis is negligible even if you won't use the extra slots for some time. Haven't played with the cisco option much so I can't vouch for the 9k. Your environment matters as well. What your engineers are comfortable with, what your

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Stefan Fouant
On 4/24/2012 8:42 PM, Juniper Maillist wrote: Thanks, Do you recommend taking the bootcamp just before entering the exam (1 week before) for well prepared candidates? If no, when do you recommend to take it? No, this is a big mistake. I recently taught the bootcamp and had two candidates att

Re: [j-nsp] mx240 vs asr 9006

2012-04-24 Thread Phil Bedard
No it is 80G per slot redundant. The older 8T 8x10G cards are not quite line rate at all packet sizes but are in an IMIX scenario. Cisco and juniper both have been playing pretty loose with the term line rate lately. Pricing wise they do have an 80G modular card which has a 4x10G and 20x1G

Re: [j-nsp] mx240 vs asr 9006

2012-04-24 Thread Corey Robertson
Also, I might be wrong, but doesn't the RSP4G limit the per slot cap to 40g in a single RSP (failure) scenario? That rules out your max 8x10G line rate. Again I could be wrong, I'm going off of memory. On Apr 24, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote: > Does that put the cost comparison out

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Harry Reynolds
Wow, big new and congrats to Doug, Joe, and crew! Thanks for the heads-up Stefan. Regards -Original Message- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Stefan Fouant Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:29 PM To: Ron Johnson Cc: jun

[j-nsp] Juniper SFP's

2012-04-24 Thread Skeeve Stevens
Hey all, Juniper are really pissing me off in regards to their SFP's. As an example: CTP-SFP-1GE-SX (0) EX-SFP-1GE-SX (163) JX-SFP-1GE-SX (2) QFX-SFP-1GE-SX (5) SRX-SFP-1GE-SX (4) Is there ANY actual difference between these SFP's? They are all the same price from the distributor but they all

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Juniper Maillist
Thanks, Do you recommend taking the bootcamp just before entering the exam (1 week before) for well prepared candidates? If no, when do you recommend to take it? BR// Abdullah Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2012, at 3:26 AM, Stefan Fouant wrote: > On 4/24/2012 7:31 PM, Juniper Maillist wr

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Stefan Fouant
On 4/24/2012 7:32 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: In other news today... http://www.proteus.net/about/press-room/torrey-point-acquires-proteus-networks Big congrats to Joe Soricelli and Doug Marschke who both founded Proteus and are frequent visitors/posters on this list. All the best to you in your

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Stefan Fouant
On 4/24/2012 7:31 PM, Juniper Maillist wrote: Hi Stephan, How can we order the JNCIE-SP bootcamp material from the OnFullifillment website? I could not find it in the courses lists. I was mistaken, it appears we do not offer the bootcamp materials on our onfulfillment website at this time,

Re: [j-nsp] mx240 vs asr 9006

2012-04-24 Thread Skeeve Stevens
Does that put the cost comparison out of alignment? *Skeeve Stevens, CEO* eintellego Pty Ltd ske...@eintellego.net ; www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383 ; Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellego twitter.com/networ

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Juniper Maillist
Hi Stephan, How can we order the JNCIE-SP bootcamp material from the OnFullifillment website? I could not find it in the courses lists. BR// Abdullah Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Stefan Fouant wrote: > On 4/23/2012 11:26 PM, bruno.juniper wrote: >> Looking for study f

Re: [j-nsp] mx240 vs asr 9006

2012-04-24 Thread Phil Bedard
If you are using the newer RSP440 and newer linecards it is substantially higher, 2M+ IPv4. But you are right the first gen cards the original poster had speced only support 512K in the FIB and we are at 400K+ now in the Internet table. Phil On Apr 24, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Doug Hanks wrote:

Re: [j-nsp] mx240 vs asr 9006

2012-04-24 Thread Doug Hanks
The MX using Trio/MPC line cards support inline IPFIX for flow statistics. No services card required. Just have to be sure your collector supports it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Flow_Information_Export Thank you, -- Doug Hanks - JNCIE-ENT #213, JNCIE-SP #875 Sr. Systems Engineer Juniper

[j-nsp] ACX Update?

2012-04-24 Thread Corey Bryndal [PR]
Hi all, Looking for more detailed specs/supported features, ship dates and anticipated pricing.. Thx in Advance! Corey.. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp

Re: [j-nsp] Interconnect two VRFs via L2 security box with redundant path

2012-04-24 Thread Stefan Fouant
Comments in-line... On 4/24/2012 1:48 PM, Clarke Morledge wrote: Stefan, I was just hunting through your blog for ideas when I saw your post :-) Thanks for jumping in. A few responses in-line below. On Tue, 24 Apr 2012, Stefan Fouant wrote: If that adjacency goes down, a simple floating

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Stefan Fouant
On 4/24/2012 2:02 PM, Devin Kennedy wrote: Hi Stefan: Do you also have a recommendation for study materials for the JNCIP-SP (taking to renew JNCIE-M) and also for study towards the JNCIE-SEC exams? Hi Devin, The same materials that you would use to prepare for JNCIE are also the ones you wo

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Stefan Fouant
On 4/24/2012 2:02 PM, Devin Kennedy wrote: Hi Stefan: Do you also have a recommendation for study materials for the JNCIP-SP (taking to renew JNCIE-M) and also for study towards the JNCIE-SEC exams? Hi Devin, The same materials that you would use to prepare for JNCIE are also the ones you wo

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Devin Kennedy
Hi Stefan: Do you also have a recommendation for study materials for the JNCIP-SP (taking to renew JNCIE-M) and also for study towards the JNCIE-SEC exams? Best Regards, Devin J Kennedy Juniper Engineer - AT&T Labs dk5...@att.com -Original Message- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.ne

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Stefan Fouant
On 4/24/2012 11:17 AM, bruno.juniper wrote: ths stefan, i have do most of lab in cjnr /ajnr/ advance vpn/ jncip lab guide /jncie lab guide and Proteus Networks workbook. didn't take jncie-sp bootcamp. it's too expensive for me. Bruno, The CJNR/AJNR/Advanced VPN are all really old and have

Re: [j-nsp] mx240 vs asr 9006

2012-04-24 Thread Serge Vautour
Note that the MX requires an MS-DPC card in order to to NetFlow v9. Serge From: Doug Hanks To: Peter ; "juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net" Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:41:24 PM Subject: Re: [j-nsp] mx240 vs asr 9006 The last time I looked the ASR9K still had

Re: [j-nsp] Interconnect two VRFs via L2 security box with redundant path

2012-04-24 Thread Clarke Morledge
Stefan, I was just hunting through your blog for ideas when I saw your post :-) Thanks for jumping in. A few responses in-line below. On Tue, 24 Apr 2012, Stefan Fouant wrote: If that adjacency goes down, a simple floating static (static route w/ higher preference than the dynamic BGP/IS

Re: [j-nsp] SRX650 Cluster throughput

2012-04-24 Thread Stefan Fouant
On 4/24/2012 11:36 AM, Jeff Rooney wrote: So I'm doing some testing with an SRX 650 cluster(11.2R6.3) and am starting to see some odd throughput issues, being that this is my first SRX cluster, I'm most likely overlooking something minor. Physical setup is pretty basic, each srx has multiple lin

Re: [j-nsp] SRX650 Cluster throughput

2012-04-24 Thread Jeff Rooney
So running multiple flows seems to give me the same results4 tcp based flows gives me an aggregate of ~317Mbits, udp is the same...4 flows aggregate ~500Mbit. The two reth interfaces in use here: root@core-rtr> show interfaces reth9 statistics Physical interface: reth9, Enabled, Physical link

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Stefan Fouant
On 4/24/2012 11:17 AM, bruno.juniper wrote: ths stefan, i have do most of lab in cjnr /ajnr/ advance vpn/ jncip lab guide /jncie lab guide and Proteus Networks workbook. didn't take jncie-sp bootcamp. it's too expensive for me. Bruno, The CJNR/AJNR/Advanced VPN are all really old and have

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Stefan Fouant
On 4/24/2012 11:17 AM, bruno.juniper wrote: ths stefan, i have do most of lab in cjnr /ajnr/ advance vpn/ jncip lab guide /jncie lab guide and Proteus Networks workbook. didn't take jncie-sp bootcamp. it's too expensive for me. Bruno, The CJNR/AJNR/Advanced VPN are all really old and have

Re: [j-nsp] SRX650 Cluster throughput

2012-04-24 Thread Stefan Fouant
On 4/24/2012 1:01 PM, Jeff Rooney wrote: Single flow using iperf for all of my tests, only variation is that I'm using both udp and tcp tests, and via the cluster udp seems to handle better, but still only seeing 500Mbit Just for giggles why don't you increase your test to utilize multiple flo

Re: [j-nsp] SRX650 Cluster throughput

2012-04-24 Thread Jeff Rooney
Single flow using iperf for all of my tests, only variation is that I'm using both udp and tcp tests, and via the cluster udp seems to handle better, but still only seeing 500Mbit On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Stefan Fouant wrote: > On 4/24/2012 11:36 AM, Jeff Rooney wrote: >> >> So I'm doin

Re: [j-nsp] Interconnect two VRFs via L2 security box with redundant path

2012-04-24 Thread Stefan Fouant
On 4/24/2012 12:44 PM, Clarke Morledge wrote: I have a design question to propose to the list. Suppose I have two VRFs in my MX routing core. Servers connect to one VRF (South) and the clients connect to the other VRF (North). I have a Layer2 security packet scrubbing box for inspecting traffic b

[j-nsp] Interconnect two VRFs via L2 security box with redundant path

2012-04-24 Thread Clarke Morledge
I have a design question to propose to the list. Suppose I have two VRFs in my MX routing core. Servers connect to one VRF (South) and the clients connect to the other VRF (North). I have a Layer2 security packet scrubbing box for inspecting traffic between my servers and clients. I have a

Re: [j-nsp] mx240 vs asr 9006

2012-04-24 Thread Doug Hanks
The last time I looked the ASR9K still had a small FIB and tapped out at around 500K. Thank you, -- Doug Hanks - JNCIE-ENT #213, JNCIE-SP #875 Sr. Systems Engineer Juniper Networks On 4/24/12 8:55 AM, "Peter" wrote: >Hi > >I have to upgrade my bgp routers, i have budget for two options: > >

[j-nsp] mx240 vs asr 9006

2012-04-24 Thread Peter
Hi I have to upgrade my bgp routers, i have budget for two options: 1. - bundle: MX240BASE-AC-HIGH, MPC1-3D-R-B, MIC-3D-20XGE-SFP, MIC-3D-2XGE-XFP; configurable RE, SCB, and PEM - better routing engine RE-S-1800X2-8G-UPG-BB + jflow license ( netflow v9 or ipfix) S-ACCT-JFLOW-IN or 2. asr 90

[j-nsp] SRX650 Cluster throughput

2012-04-24 Thread Jeff Rooney
So I'm doing some testing with an SRX 650 cluster(11.2R6.3) and am starting to see some odd throughput issues, being that this is my first SRX cluster, I'm most likely overlooking something minor. Physical setup is pretty basic, each srx has multiple links connected into its own switch, as well as

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Kazmierczak, Tomasz (NSN - US/Irving)
I did Juniper JNCIE-SP boot camp and can really recommend if U got a chance. -Original Message- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of ext Xu Hu Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:24 AM To: bruno.juniper Cc: juniper-nsp Subject: Re

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Xu Hu
I also think it is too expansive, lol Thanks and regards, Xu Hu On 24 Apr, 2012, at 23:17, "bruno.juniper" wrote: > ths stefan, > > > i have do most of lab in cjnr /ajnr/ advance vpn/ jncip lab guide /jncie lab > guide and Proteus Networks workbook. didn't take jncie-sp bootcamp. it's too >

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread bruno.juniper
ths stefan, i have do most of lab in cjnr /ajnr/ advance vpn/ jncip lab guide /jncie lab guide and Proteus Networks workbook. didn't take jncie-sp bootcamp. it's too expensive for me. -- Best Regards, Bruno -- Original -- From: "Stef

Re: [j-nsp] looking for jncie-sp study follow

2012-04-24 Thread Stefan Fouant
On 4/23/2012 11:26 PM, bruno.juniper wrote: Looking for study folks; My exam is in 2 moths.skype: brunojuniper Your best bet is to go through all the labs in JIR, AJSPR, JMV, JMR, and JCOS. Mock these up and go through as many different scenarios as possible. Also, the labs in Harry Reynolds'

Re: [j-nsp] About Juniper MX10 router performance

2012-04-24 Thread Md. Jahangir Hossain
Thanks again to all of valued member for putting valued information.   From: Doug Hanks To: "juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net" ; Md. Jahangir Hossain Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [j-nsp] About Juniper MX10 router performance The MX5 scaling