Re: [j-nsp] Buying a used Juniper

2015-05-06 Thread Paul Stewart
e. -Original Message- From: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Aaron Dewell Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 1:04 PM To: Raphael Mazelier Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Buying a used Juniper I looked into this once. Support involves a on

Re: [j-nsp] Buying a used Juniper

2015-05-05 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 5 May 2015, Colton Conor wrote: Additionally, Juniper Networks, Inc. software is only licensed to the original purchaser and the license is not transferable. This probably won't hold up under EU law. When you buy something used you're allowed to continue using the software on the box

Re: [j-nsp] Buying a used Juniper

2015-05-05 Thread Scott
For kit that is used in a production environment I would always recommend having an active support contract on it. Even if you can source software elsewhere, it is not legit. At that point you are violating Juniper's terms. Secondly, knowing that you can fall back on JTAC in case of issues, is crit

Re: [j-nsp] Buying a used Juniper

2015-05-05 Thread Aaron Dewell
Ask your local reseller for a quote. On May 5, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Colton Conor wrote: > Damien, > > Thanks for the links. From the website: Juniper Networks, Inc. requires an > inspection or a reinstatement fee for all products that were not originally > purchased, by the then current owner of t

Re: [j-nsp] Buying a used Juniper

2015-05-05 Thread Colton Conor
Damien, Thanks for the links. From the website: Juniper Networks, Inc. requires an inspection or a reinstatement fee for all products that were not originally purchased, by the then current owner of the equipment, from Juniper or an Authorized Juniper Partner. . Additionally, Juniper Networks, Inc

Re: [j-nsp] Buying a used Juniper

2015-05-05 Thread Damien DeVille
You guys might want to take a look at the following for Juniper's policies on these matters. http://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content&id=KB9839 https://www.juniper.net/customers/support/downloads/7100156-001-EN.pdf http://www.juniper.net/support/990222.pdf - Damien On Tue, May 5, 20

Re: [j-nsp] Buying a used Juniper

2015-05-05 Thread Colton Conor
Correction, $500 per hour not $5000. So basically a one time fee of $2000. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Colton Conor wrote: > Well, we have a smaller MX80 that doesn't have a support contract. Called > JTAC with an issue, and they said the unit does not have a support > contract. They said t

Re: [j-nsp] Buying a used Juniper

2015-05-05 Thread Colton Conor
Well, we have a smaller MX80 that doesn't have a support contract. Called JTAC with an issue, and they said the unit does not have a support contract. They said they have a one issue/call support fee of 4 hours at $5000 an hour which does not include software updates. So it does sound like they has

Re: [j-nsp] Buying a used Juniper

2015-05-05 Thread Scott Granados
Depends on the vendor and the application. This is probably a more true statement with Juniper than Cisco because there is so much used Cisco out there that you could buy a large router of similar size and all the spare parts you want far less expensively than buying the hardware new even with

Re: [j-nsp] Buying a used Juniper

2015-05-05 Thread Aaron Dewell
I looked into this once. Support involves a one-time purchase of a contract, back-dated to when it was last under contract. Depending on how long ago that was, it may be prohibitive as well. On May 5, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Raphael Mazelier wrote: > > Le 05/05/15 18:47, Colton Conor a écrit : >

Re: [j-nsp] Buying a used Juniper

2015-05-05 Thread Levi Pederson
Colton, When it comes to important gear, something that would require the muscle of a MX480, I am hesitant to recommend used. With all the hassles and hoops and handstands that could possibly be required , might be easier to get new. Have you contacted your Sales Rep? If not I can recommend a f

Re: [j-nsp] Buying a used Juniper

2015-05-05 Thread Raphael Mazelier
Le 05/05/15 18:47, Colton Conor a écrit : What are the limitations of buying a used Juniper MX router? I assume there will be no JTAC support, but what would it take to licenses a used router to get JTAC support? I don't know if juniper allow this, but if yes I think the price will be prohib

[j-nsp] Buying a used Juniper

2015-05-05 Thread Colton Conor
What are the limitations of buying a used Juniper MX router? I assume there will be no JTAC support, but what would it take to licenses a used router to get JTAC support? Does JTAC offer a one time support call fee for unlicensed routers? Assuming I already have access to all the latest releases o