Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, December 30, 2010 08:24:34 am Jonathan Towne wrote: > We landed an RUS grant and spec'd 2*ASR1k into that > funding, then managed to land a second RUS grant in the > second round.. found that the ASRs wouldn't have enough > port density for how we wanted to lay things out. The ASR10

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, December 30, 2010 07:03:40 am Keith wrote: > We did not have a need for any of the other WAN hardware > so we do only ethernet and have a mix of MM/SM and > copper. With the 20 port MIC card it meets our ethernet > side quite well. If you're an Ethernet-only house, the MX-series make

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-29 Thread Jonathan Towne
For what it's worth, I was about to reply to this thread with almost the exact same as below, and then this arrived in my mailbox, so I'll add a bit to my original response :) Here goes: We're running on a way overworked 7206VXR with an NPE-300, 256MB of RAM.. attempting BGP feeds from 3 provider

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-29 Thread Keith
Hi. We have a 7206 w/NPE-G1 and looked at the ASR as a replacement after looking at both Juniper and Cisco and getting quotes from both vendors we decided on the MX480. MX480 was slightly more than the ASR gear we looked at, but offered better redundancy and higher port count. But still overall

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, December 29, 2010 12:26:15 pm Julien Goodwin wrote: > And Cisco aren't *worse* at this? Look at the supported > platforms for VPLS for example. I can run VPLS on an M40 > if I had one (yes, with a tunnel PIC, or specific other > PIC's). I likely wouldn't consider VPLS a basic featu

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, December 29, 2010 06:33:04 am Keegan Holley wrote: > I'm not sure what you we're referring to here, but I > assume you mean the additional features available in the > cisco such as stateful firewall, etc. There is a > difference there, but most NSP's don't use them. There > is also

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-29 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, December 29, 2010 04:37:25 am Keegan Holley wrote: > In all fairness cisco has some similar silliness, > although the Juniper version tends to be much more > inconvenient and costly. Agree, but I was referring to the newer generation of platforms both vendors are putting out today

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-29 Thread sthaug
> > > > This is more of a question, but I always assumed that > > > > the ASR overlapped > > > > > > somewhere between the J and M series. > > > > Right now, IMHO, the ASR1000 is way more advanced than the > > J-series (apples vs. oranges, really), > > > I'm not sure what you we're referring to h

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-28 Thread Peter Krupl
> > Mark, perfect explanation. I recently ran into a limitaion in that I > wanted to do traffic shaping on a M series, come to find that you must have > queuing pics to do it. I ended up going with an asr as it does it with built > in hardware. The M box was 60k more msrp... I needed 4 boxes, d

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-28 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 29/12/10 04:39, Mark Tinka wrote: > The things that currently annoy me with Juniper are: > - JUNOS has been terrible, hopefully 2011 is a > better year. Absolutely, although I've found that only really in the SRX line where both 10.3 & 10.4 are unusable as RPD never comes up (*sec

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-28 Thread Keegan Holley
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: > On Wednesday, December 29, 2010 04:37:25 am Keegan Holley > wrote: > > > In all fairness cisco has some similar silliness, > > although the Juniper version tends to be much more > > inconvenient and costly. > > Agree, but I was referring to the

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-28 Thread Keegan Holley
> > The price gap is even more interesting. > I suppose this depends on your relationship with both companies. Many of the shops that have this buy cisco equipment at a 40% plus discount because of volume, but pay list or nearly so for the Juniper equipment. > > The things that currently annoy m

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-28 Thread Chris Evans
Mark, perfect explanation. I recently ran into a limitaion in that I wanted to do traffic shaping on a M series, come to find that you must have queuing pics to do it. I ended up going with an asr as it does it with built in hardware. The M box was 60k more msrp... I needed 4 boxes, do the math.

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-28 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:34:42 am Jonathan Lassoff wrote: > Many resellers will give you a good deal if you're > checking out Juniper for the first time, since they > usually have way better products that Cisco but cost a > little more. It's easy to get hooked on well-made > routers :p I

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-28 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:25:40 am Chris Evans wrote: > If you are looking for a high performance box to replace > a 7200 the M of juniper is the closet product match for > the 7200. Honestly I would recommend the Cisco asr1k > though. It can do all of the features you are looking > for ou

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-27 Thread Samit
We upgraded from NPE-G1s to M7i couple of years back , we are highly impressed and highly recommenced..! Perhaps you should also explore Foundry XMR-4 . Samit On 12/28/10 8:49 AM, Dwater wrote: > I was thinking on M10i with ECFEB and related PIC. Any comments or > recommendations? > > On Dec 2

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-27 Thread Dwater
I was thinking on M10i with ECFEB and related PIC. Any comments or recommendations? On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:34 PM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote: > I guess that would depend on the hardware configuration that you have > in your 7206? What NPE are you using? > > Assuming you're using an NPE-G1, which ca

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-27 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
I guess that would depend on the hardware configuration that you have in your 7206? What NPE are you using? Assuming you're using an NPE-G1, which can run a few GigE ports at 1 Mpps, some comparable routers might be: Juniper J6350 -- A CPU-based router (more inexpensive) that'll route 400 Kpps an

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-27 Thread Chris Evans
If you are looking for a high performance box to replace a 7200 the M of juniper is the closet product match for the 7200. Honestly I would recommend the Cisco asr1k though. It can do all of the features you are looking for out of the box.. Juniper m series needs an extra module to do encryption

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-27 Thread Dwater
Mainly GE interfaces and wan MPLS connectivity with IPSec teemination as well as Internet connectivity related device. On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Adam Leff wrote: > What type of interfaces and number of each type do you plan on terminate on > the device? Throughput? Services? > > ~Adam

Re: [j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-27 Thread Adam Leff
What type of interfaces and number of each type do you plan on terminate on the device? Throughput? Services? ~Adam On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Dwater wrote: > Which juniper router fits in place of 7206? We are planning to put juniper > routers in. > _

[j-nsp] Cisco 7206 replacement

2010-12-27 Thread Dwater
Which juniper router fits in place of 7206? We are planning to put juniper routers in. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp