Re: [j-nsp] Connecting two spanning-tree domains

2013-08-27 Thread Eric Van Tol
> -Original Message- > From: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of > Johan Borch > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 4:57 AM > To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: [j-nsp] Connecting two spanning-tree domains > > Hi! > >

Re: [j-nsp] Connecting two spanning-tree domains

2013-08-27 Thread joel jaeggli
On 8/27/13 8:16 AM, Johan Borch wrote: > This is basically two datacenters with a lot of devices on each side, and I > need to exchange vlans in a redundant way. I need something solid so that > one side can't interfere with the other side. Is there some way to add an > extra L2 device between the

Re: [j-nsp] Connecting two spanning-tree domains

2013-08-27 Thread Marvin Bartchlett
Yep - Agree with Josh. I had this same scenario where a customer was migrating data centers. We built a new DC based off Juniper hardware and needed to provide connectivity to the old DC (within the same colo) which was all Cisco based (MSTP (Juniper) to PVST (Cisco)). At first we connected the

Re: [j-nsp] Connecting two spanning-tree domains

2013-08-27 Thread Josh Hoppes
If you filter out BPDUs it won't change the roots, but it won't talk either protocol. What you're talking about is breaking fundamental part of spanning tree anyway so why do you care if the device even participates in the process? On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Johan Borch wrote: > This is ba

Re: [j-nsp] Connecting two spanning-tree domains

2013-08-27 Thread Johan Borch
This is basically two datacenters with a lot of devices on each side, and I need to exchange vlans in a redundant way. I need something solid so that one side can't interfere with the other side. Is there some way to add an extra L2 device between the networks to act as some kind of spanning tree "

Re: [j-nsp] Connecting two spanning-tree domains

2013-08-27 Thread Marvin Bartchlett
You will have to be very careful. If I'm not mistaken MST actually uses CST to tie together the multiple spanning tree instances running in MST. If you tie in a Cisco device running RSTP the Juniper and Cisco devices will default to CST on those links since that's the common ground (as Johan sai

Re: [j-nsp] Connecting two spanning-tree domains

2013-08-27 Thread Ge Moua
This is a juniper forum so I apologize ahead of time for the vendor-C reference below (but standards-based L2 works mostly the same across all vendor implementations): https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/344842 -- Regards, Ge Moua Univ of Minn Alumnus -- On 08/27/2013 08:16 AM, Johan Borch

Re: [j-nsp] Connecting two spanning-tree domains

2013-08-27 Thread Johan Borch
Will that mean that I still have two roots, one in each network and that they don't affect each other? Regards Johan On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Ge Moua wrote: > IIRC once joined, the MST and r-pvst L2 domains will speak CST (as a > common denominator). You may want to consider pruning

Re: [j-nsp] Connecting two spanning-tree domains

2013-08-27 Thread Ge Moua
IIRC once joined, the MST and r-pvst L2 domains will speak CST (as a common denominator). You may want to consider pruning vlans where only needed (esp if you have a high vlan count on either or). -- Regards, Ge Moua Univ of Minn Alumnus -- On 08/27/2013 03:56 AM, Johan Borch wrote: Hi! I

[j-nsp] Connecting two spanning-tree domains

2013-08-27 Thread Johan Borch
Hi! I need to connect two spanning-tree domains, one is running MSTP and one is running rapid-pvst. Is this doable? The two networks have different roots and it needs to stay like that but I still need redundant links between them. I need to transport VLANs from one network to the other and only o