Re: [j-nsp] LDP VPLS - Multi-homing

2017-10-11 Thread Aaron Gould
(I really should change this subject heading to "BGP VPLS - Multi-homing" since that's the more specific vpls version we are discussing at this point... FEC 128 / RFC 4761) hey look what I just found .. https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/topics/usage-guidelines/vp ns-configuring-vpl

Re: [j-nsp] LDP VPLS - Multi-homing

2017-10-10 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Dear Aaron, I can't relate for MX product-line and LSYS interactions. Regarding SRX product-line and LSYS, it's mostly some functionnalities not being handled well by the firewall at the LSYS level. In the end, I know it forced my hosting colleagues to resort to some nasty workarounds that became

Re: [j-nsp] LDP VPLS - Multi-homing

2017-10-10 Thread Aaron Gould
Thanks Youssef, yes sir, you may advise me anytime :) I currently use lsys in lab for testing and is a nice way of having lots of separate routers in one MX104 We (my coworkers and I) have thought that when we rollout a new ring of MX960's, that maybe it would be good to try to put the PE funct

Re: [j-nsp] LDP VPLS - Multi-homing

2017-10-10 Thread Aaron Gould
Thanks Alexander. I was just now updating GNS3 for just that. I have used GNS3 in the past for IOS, XRv, vMX, and olive. Do I need GNS3 or can I do it only with VMware, etc as you've stated. -Aaron ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.neth

Re: [j-nsp] LDP VPLS - Multi-homing

2017-10-10 Thread Aaron Gould
Thanks James. As a side note, seems incredible that bgp is actually used for advertising mac address for a bridging function. Who would have ever known 20 years ago that we would be here. - Aaron ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nethe

Re: [j-nsp] LDP VPLS - Multi-homing

2017-10-10 Thread Alexander Marhold
- Von: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] Im Auftrag von James Bensley Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2017 09:20 An: juniper-nsp Betreff: Re: [j-nsp] LDP VPLS - Multi-homing On 10 October 2017 at 01:45, Aaron Gould wrote: > Ah, I see what you are asking. I don't know,

Re: [j-nsp] LDP VPLS - Multi-homing

2017-10-10 Thread James Bensley
On 10 October 2017 at 01:45, Aaron Gould wrote: > Ah, I see what you are asking. I don't know, perhaps someone on list knows > the particulars. > > About the multiple active fwd'ing paths for mhome'd pe-ce... I think someone > told me that is a benefit that evpn brings to the table... but I heard

Re: [j-nsp] LDP VPLS - Multi-homing

2017-10-09 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Hello Aaron, If I may, I would advice you to drop LSYS for two reasons : 1/ on a practical level, it's more constraints and limitations than it sounds on the paper. After 5 years of running it into production, we have phased it out two weeks ago. 2/ it is dying and replacement feature (logical

Re: [j-nsp] LDP VPLS - Multi-homing

2017-10-09 Thread Aaron Gould
Ah, I see what you are asking. I don't know, perhaps someone on list knows the particulars. About the multiple active fwd'ing paths for mhome'd pe-ce... I think someone told me that is a benefit that evpn brings to the table... but I heard it has something to do with per-vlan load sharing across

Re: [j-nsp] LDP VPLS - Multi-homing

2017-10-09 Thread James Bensley
On 9 Oct 2017 18:52, "Aaron Gould" wrote: Thanks James, What exactly are you trying to figure out ? you mentioned " I was trying to work out the mechanism for signalling the non-designated-forwarding PE-CE link to go operationally "down"... -Aaron I was wondering how it works. The RFC d

Re: [j-nsp] LDP VPLS - Multi-homing

2017-10-09 Thread Aaron Gould
Thanks James, What exactly are you trying to figure out ? you mentioned " I was trying to work out the mechanism for signalling the non-designated-forwarding PE-CE link to go operationally "down"... -Aaron ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-n

Re: [j-nsp] LDP VPLS - Multi-homing

2017-10-09 Thread James Bensley
On 9 October 2017 at 12:49, Aaron Gould wrote: > Ah. I think I might be on to something. I see that when I do a BGP VPLS > (fec 128, rfc 4761) style config, then I do NOT see the pw's active between > the non-designated-forwarding multi-homed pe's... and, this seems to be > automatic. (no mhomi

Re: [j-nsp] LDP VPLS - Multi-homing

2017-10-09 Thread Aaron Gould
Ah. I think I might be on to something. I see that when I do a BGP VPLS (fec 128, rfc 4761) style config, then I do NOT see the pw's active between the non-designated-forwarding multi-homed pe's... and, this seems to be automatic. (no mhoming config needed in my lab) It seems in that link there

[j-nsp] LDP VPLS - Multi-homing

2017-10-02 Thread Aaron Gould
Please let me know where I'm not understand this correctly. I have what I understand to be a LDP VPLS configured network, additionally with a functional multi-homing configuration. It's all working. shutting down the operational/designated forwarder pe-ce interface causes a good failover to th