None. You can do 40Gbps, with multicast, on each linecard.
On 15 January 2016 at 15:24, Kevin Wormington wrote:
> So what are any bandwidth limitations of an all DPCE-R system with original
> SCB?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
>
>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 6:59 AM, Christopher E. Brown
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
So what are any bandwidth limitations of an all DPCE-R system with original SCB?
Thanks,
Kevin
> On Jan 15, 2016, at 6:59 AM, Christopher E. Brown
> wrote:
>
>
> The MPC2-Q is an advanced per unit queueing card and has QX, it also
> runs against the lower/original fabric rate.
>
> The 16XG
The MPC2-Q is an advanced per unit queueing card and has QX, it also
runs against the lower/original fabric rate.
The 16XGE rate is a port mode card with no QX, and it supports the first
of the fabric speed increases.
The published capacity of the MPC2-Q is 30G per MIC with a supplied by
Juniper
> From: Saku Ytti [mailto:s...@ytti.fi]
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 10:18 AM
> On 15 January 2016 at 03:13, Christopher E. Brown
> wrote:
> > When the same folks were asked about the 16XGE card and the 120G (and
> > later 160G) performance it was indicated that there was an additional
> > lay
On 15 January 2016 at 03:13, Christopher E. Brown
wrote:
> When the same folks were asked about the 16XGE card and the 120G (and later
> 160G)
> performance it was indicated that there was an additional layer of
> logic/asics used to tie
> all 4 trios in the 16XGE to the bus and that these ASICs
> > I did not have gear for a 16XGE full test, but after SCBE upgrade I did
> > specifically test at full duplex line rate on all 4 ports in a bank on one
> > card to
> > all 4 ports in a bank on a second card in the same chassis.
> >
> Alright, that's good news.
> And there's no QX chip on these
On 15/Jan/16 00:09, Saku Ytti wrote:
> Pretty sure it's as wire-rate as MPC1, MPC2 on SCBE system.
Yes, but I think the OP wants to buy the SCB.
Mark.
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> From: Saku Ytti [mailto:s...@ytti.fi]
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 12:45 AM
>
> On 15 January 2016 at 01:39, Christopher E. Brown
> wrote:
> > The 30Gbit nominal (actual 31.7 or greater) limit per trio applies to
> > the MPC1 and 2 cards but the quad trio interconnect in the 16XGE is
> > wir
> From: Christopher E. Brown [mailto:chris.br...@acsalaska.net]
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 11:39 PM
>
>
> In the datasheets for the 16XGE since release Juniper specifically called out
> 120G due to bus limit with SCB.
>
> Not in the sheet but actual is guaranteed 30G per bank of 4.
>
> We
Thanks for the replies, but I am not interested in the 16XGE card. The
configuration I am referencing would be this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Juniper-MX960BASE-AC-10x-DPC-R-4XGE-XFP-MS-DPC-1yrWrnty-Free-Ship-40x-10G-MX960-/351615023814?hash=item51dde37ac6:g:WUcAAOSwLVZViHc~
Should I run into any pr
We actually spent a couple years spooling up for a greenfield build of a
network required
to provide very tight SLAs on a per service bases.
We were working with the MX BU directly for almost 2 years and constantly
exchanging test
results and loaner/testing cards.
Per specs provided by the des
On 15 January 2016 at 01:39, Christopher E. Brown
wrote:
> The 30Gbit nominal (actual 31.7 or greater) limit per trio applies to the
> MPC1 and 2 cards
> but the quad trio interconnect in the 16XGE is wired up diff with additional
> helpers and
> can do the full 40G per bank.
There is actually
On 15 January 2016 at 01:39, Christopher E. Brown
wrote:
> The 30Gbit nominal (actual 31.7 or greater) limit per trio applies to the
> MPC1 and 2 cards
> but the quad trio interconnect in the 16XGE is wired up diff with additional
> helpers and
> can do the full 40G per bank.
Pretty sure this
/14/2016 2:13 PM, Adam Vitkovsky wrote:
>> Christopher E. Brown
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:20 PM
>> To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
>> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX960 with 3 RE's?
>>
>>
>> It is 120Gbit agg in a SCB system as the limit is 120
On 1/14/16 2:48 PM, Jeff wrote:
> Am 14.01.2016 um 23:19 schrieb Christopher E. Brown:
>>
>>
>> Agree, mixing DPC and MPC is a terrible idea. Don't like DPC to begin
>> with, but nobody in their right mind mixes DPCs and MPCs.
>>
>
> Why is that? The mentioned 16x 10G card actually sounds interes
> Christopher E. Brown
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:20 PM
> To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX960 with 3 RE's?
>
>
> It is 120Gbit agg in a SCB system as the limit is 120G/slot.
>
> This is in the form of 30Gbit per TRIO and 1 TRIO pe
With 2 active SCBs (2+0 non-redundant or 2+1 redundant in a 960) you are
capable of 120G
per slot.
The worst case throughput in this case would depend on the cards.
For single Trio MPC1 in would be 30Gbit per card (actual 31.7 to ~ 39 depending
on packet mix)
For dual Trio MPC2 it would be sa
> Jeff
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:47 PM
> To: Mark Tinka; Colton Conor; Tom Storey
> Cc: Juniper List
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] MX960 with 3 RE's?
>
> Am 14.01.2016 um 06:45 schrieb Mark Tinka:
> > The 64-bit RE gives you more memory to hold more routes,
On 1/14/2016 1:48 PM, Jeff wrote:
> Am 14.01.2016 um 23:19 schrieb Christopher E. Brown:
>>
>>
>> Agree, mixing DPC and MPC is a terrible idea. Don't like DPC to begin
>> with, but nobody in their right mind mixes DPCs and MPCs.
>>
>
> Why is that? The mentioned 16x 10G card actually sounds inter
Am 14.01.2016 um 23:19 schrieb Christopher E. Brown:
Agree, mixing DPC and MPC is a terrible idea. Don't like DPC to begin
with, but nobody in their right mind mixes DPCs and MPCs.
Why is that? The mentioned 16x 10G card actually sounds interesting but
is still quite expensive compared to
Am 14.01.2016 um 06:45 schrieb Mark Tinka:
The 64-bit RE gives you more memory to hold more routes, but if you
only need 4x full BGP feeds today, the RE-S-2000 should be fine.
Naturally, the newer RE will provide longer-term support for later
Junos releases (especially with the architectural di
So assuming I got with something like this setup:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Juniper-MX960BASE-AC-10x-DPC-R-4XGE-XFP-MS-DPC-1yrWrnty-Free-Ship-40x-10G-MX960-/351615023814?hash=item51dde37ac6:g:WUcAAOSwLVZViHc~
That has RE-2000's, Regular SCBs, and all DPC linecards. Would these all be
able to run at
It is 120Gbit agg in a SCB system as the limit is 120G/slot.
This is in the form of 30Gbit per TRIO and 1 TRIO per 4 ports.
So, use 3 of 4 in each bank if you want 100% line rate.
SCBE increases this to 160Gbit or better (depending on age of chassis)
allowing for line rate on all 16.
Agree, m
On 14 January 2016 at 23:11, Mark Tinka wrote:
Hey,
>> A surplus dealer recommended the MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP-R-B, which is less
>> than $1k/port used. But it only supports full bandwidth on 12 ports,
>> would be oversubscribed 4:3 if all 16 are in use. They are Trio chipset.
> I wouldn't be too
On 14/Jan/16 20:55, Jim Troutman wrote:
> I'm also very curious about inexpensive MX480/MX960 10G routing
> options for use as MPLS P or maybe PE routers.
>
> A surplus dealer recommended the MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP-R-B, which is less
> than $1k/port used. But it only supports full bandwidth on 12 p
I'm also very curious about inexpensive MX480/MX960 10G routing options for
use as MPLS P or maybe PE routers.
A surplus dealer recommended the MPC-3D-16XGE-SFPP-R-B, which is less than
$1k/port used. But it only supports full bandwidth on 12 ports, would be
oversubscribed 4:3 if all 16 are in u
Mark,
Thanks for the information.What is the smallest non-DPC 10G card you would
recommend? I am probably going to have a hard to getting away with DPC due
to the cost. A 4 port 10G DPC card can be had for under $1K on the used
market.
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:45 PM, Mark Tinka wrote:
>
>
> O
On 14/Jan/16 02:07, Colton Conor wrote:
> Well it would be RE-S-2000-4096 running the JTAC Recommended Junos
> Software Version Junos 13.3R8 plus the standard (not enhanced SCBs).
>
> I know more memory and 64 bit is usually better, but how does this
> help in Junos? From past threads, we have c
Well it would be RE-S-2000-4096 running the JTAC Recommended Junos Software
Version Junos 13.3R8 plus the standard (not enhanced SCBs).
I know more memory and 64 bit is usually better, but how does this help in
Junos? From past threads, we have concluded that Junos is currently single
thread/core
Used RE-S-2000 w/SCBE and JunOS 14.2 with JAM for MPC3-NG Cards. No issues.
Mostly running 13.3R6 or R8 on most of our core which is dual RE-S-2000's on
MX480.
- CK.
On 14/01/2016, at 9:11 AM, Tom Storey wrote:
> On 13 January 2016 at 22:32, Mark Tinka wrote:
>> A more current RE means you
On 13 January 2016 at 22:32, Mark Tinka wrote:
> A more current RE means you can run more recent Junos releases. I
> haven't run the RE-S-2000 in a while, so not sure how well it's
> supported by current Junos releases (someone else who has the older RE's
> might want to chime in).
Guess it depen
On 13/Jan/16 20:05, Colton Conor wrote:
>
> Are there any feature limitations I should be aware of using a MX960 with
> the above configuration and older I beleive EOL'd DPC-R-4XGE-XFP
> linecards? For comparison's sake, I am upgrading from a MX80 using the 4
> 10G ports on the front of the MX8
Thanks for the overwhelming wealth of information.
So sounds like the ideal, supported setup would be a MX960 with 3 SBC, 2
RE-S-2000-4096, and redundant power supplies. For a recommended option, we
would have a third RE-S-2000-4096 as a spare (well really we should have a
spare for everything), a
Hi!
Dnia 13 stycznia 2016 18:08:36 CET, Niall Donaghy
>Finally about the REs, you can physically house a spare RE in the dual
>purpose SCB2 / MPC6 slot but I believe it lacks the additional
>backplane connections to enable the RE to work, hence it lies there
>dead.
My knowelage about MXes may be
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 09:06:55AM -0800, joel jaeggli wrote:
> An mx960 has a full fabric with two SCBs.
That depends on the specific MPCs used in the chassis. Some do get
full performance only with all 3 SCBs.
> it is n+1 redundant with 3. e.g. at that point you can swap one
> without cutting t
Sounds correct, only 2 routing engines at a time.
> On Jan 13, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Colton Conor wrote:
>
> Just to confirm though, its the extra RE that is different and not
> supported in this config right? The MX960 can use 3 SCB's at once, but only
> 2 REs? Or do I have the wrong too?
>
>
>
nable the RE to work, hence it lies there dead.
Kind regards,
Niall
> -Original Message-
> From: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of
> joel jaeggli
> Sent: 13 January 2016 17:07
> To: Colton Conor; Mark Tinka
> Cc: Juniper List
> Subject:
On 1/13/16 8:59 AM, Colton Conor wrote:
> Just to confirm though, its the extra RE that is different and not
> supported in this config right? The MX960 can use 3 SCB's at once, but only
> 2 REs? Or do I have the wrong too?
An mx960 has a full fabric with two SCBs. it is n+1 redundant with 3.
e.g.
Just to confirm though, its the extra RE that is different and not
supported in this config right? The MX960 can use 3 SCB's at once, but only
2 REs? Or do I have the wrong too?
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
>
>
> On 13/Jan/16 12:42, Jérôme Nicolle wrote:
>
> > Looks like
On 13/Jan/16 12:42, Jérôme Nicolle wrote:
> Looks like the broker had a few spare SCB and REs and no functionnal
> chassis to slap them in, so he invented a bundle and didn't fully test it.
If the price is right, I'd take the extra RE and SCB as backup, in case
not including them does not yield
Hi,
Le 13/01/2016 05:21, Colton Conor a écrit :
> Then how do they have 3 RE's listed and house in the picture? Is the 3 RE
> in the 3 SBC just in there, but would not be powered on or usable?
Looks like the broker had a few spare SCB and REs and no functionnal
chassis to slap them in, so he inve
RE can only be installed into the SCBs labeled 0 and 1, third additional
multi-functioning slot labeled 2/6 supports either a SCB (NO RE) or FPC
(aka MPC,DPC). Something like
https://www.safaribooksonline.com/library/view/juniper-mx-series/9781449358143/httpatomoreillycomsourceoreillyimages1327907.
On 13/Jan/16 06:21, Colton Conor wrote:
> Then how do they have 3 RE's listed and house in the picture? Is the 3
> RE in the 3 SBC just in there, but would not be powered on or usable?
Correct.
Mark.
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Then how do they have 3 RE's listed and house in the picture? Is the 3 RE
in the 3 SBC just in there, but would not be powered on or usable?
On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Mark Tinka wrote:
>
>
> On 12/Jan/16 22:40, Colton Conor wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to have 3 RE's in a MX960? For exampl
On 12/Jan/16 22:40, Colton Conor wrote:
> Is it possible to have 3 RE's in a MX960? For example:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Juniper-MX960PREMIUM-DC-ECM-4x-PWR-MX960-DC-3x-SCB-MX960-3x-RE-S-2000-4096-/271739188162?hash=item3f44eaf3c2:g:Z~IAAOSwnDZT8lpv
> shows 3s RE's installed?
>
> The documentat
Is it possible to have 3 RE's in a MX960? For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Juniper-MX960PREMIUM-DC-ECM-4x-PWR-MX960-DC-3x-SCB-MX960-3x-RE-S-2000-4096-/271739188162?hash=item3f44eaf3c2:g:Z~IAAOSwnDZT8lpv
shows 3s RE's installed?
The documentation I have seen shows that a MX960 can have 3 SCB's,
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