Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-12 Thread Timur Maryin via juniper-nsp
This is not applicable to MX80 (as platform was mentioned by topic starter). On 12-Mar-19 15:38, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: Upgrading from 12.3 to 15.1 upgrades the FreeBSD version from 6.1 to 10.0. Upgrading from 12.3xxx to 15.1xxx reformats the file system. Only specific fil

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-12 Thread adamv0025
> Saku Ytti > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 2:49 PM > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 4:30 PM Tom Beecher > wrote: > > > was when it was shut down. ( Hopefully. :) ) When you upgrade it, the > > process only modifies certain components. Any OS upgrade process like > > that > > This is not true, the up

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-10 Thread Saku Ytti
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 4:30 PM Tom Beecher wrote: > was when it was shut down. ( Hopefully. :) ) When you upgrade it, the > process only modifies certain components. Any OS upgrade process like that This is not true, the upgrade is fresh install. It is not like you do upgrade on your laptop Fre

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-10 Thread Tom Beecher
This was, and still is, the most accurate answer in the thread. To expand on it further Cisco IOS images are standalone binary images. Each time the device is powered on, it loads the image it is configured too, and executes it. The entire operating system is encapsulated in this image file, a

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/Mar/19 11:18, Saku Ytti wrote: > So Gert's question 'y tho?' is very much valid, and the most obvious > reasons is because Juniper doesn't want to increase the product cost > to cover lab testing from any-to-any, as it would mean ever increase > money and time cost to release. By setting s

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Sat, Mar 09, 2019 at 11:18:35AM +0200, Saku Ytti wrote: > b) The installation is success, but platform doesn't come up configured right: > - Because IOS accepts config unatomically line-by-line, you can > give it arbitrarily bad config, and it'll eat what it can, making it > robust betw

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Sat, Mar 09, 2019 at 07:07:49AM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote: > With Junos being based on FreeBSD, you can see why this makes sense. Not really :-) gert -- "If was one thing all people took for granted, was conviction that if you feed honest figures into a computer, honest figures come ou

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-09 Thread Saku Ytti
On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 7:11 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > Just as with FreeBSD (if you've used it before), you can upgrade to 11 > if you are coming from 9.3 and any official version of 10. For anything > earlier than that, you'd need to upgrade to 10 first. I don't think this is it. Junos is lot more

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/Mar/19 23:12, Gert Doering wrote: > So? Just as with FreeBSD (if you've used it before), you can upgrade to 11 if you are coming from 9.3 and any official version of 10. For anything earlier than that, you'd need to upgrade to 10 first. You can upgrade to 10 if you are coming from any off

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/Mar/19 16:56, Pierre Emeriaud wrote: > > As others said, direct upgrade is somewhat unsupported and quite bold. > > We're currently upgrading mx480s from 13.3R5 to 17.2R2 with an > intermediate step on 15.1F5. As those are LNSes we have to activate > tomcat (`services subscriber-management

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-08 Thread Ola Thoresen
My point is only that they made a _lot_ of changes to the underlaying systems between 12/13/14 and 15 (as far as I understand it 15 is basically forked from 12, so changes done in 13 and 14 are not necessarily in 15).  But they still changed a lot, especially the whole change from running as a

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-08 Thread Aaron Gould
Lately, we have been upgrading lots of our ACX5048's from 15.1X54 (D51 and D61) to 17.3R3.10 -Aaron ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-08 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, > On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 01:17:44PM -0700, Eldon Koyle wrote: >> Many (most?) network operating systems are an image file that the >> switch either writes over a partition (ie. block-level copy) or boots >> directly (ie. initrd/initramfs) with a separate partition for a config >> file. Junos

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-08 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 01:17:44PM -0700, Eldon Koyle wrote: > Many (most?) network operating systems are an image file that the > switch either writes over a partition (ie. block-level copy) or boots > directly (ie. initrd/initramfs) with a separate partition for a config > file. Junos is a

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-08 Thread Eldon Koyle
Many (most?) network operating systems are an image file that the switch either writes over a partition (ie. block-level copy) or boots directly (ie. initrd/initramfs) with a separate partition for a config file. Junos is a full BSD operating system that installs packages to partitions on the devi

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-08 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 10:38:16AM +0100, "Rolf Hanßen" wrote: > usually they say not more than 2 major releases in one step (i.e. 13 -> 15 > -> 17). So why is that? Genuinely curious, as I do not have much JunOS upgrade experience - and my Cisco IOS experience so far has been "you can go fr

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-08 Thread Pierre Emeriaud
Le ven. 8 mars 2019 à 10:26, Robert Hass a écrit : > > Hi > Can I do direct upgrade of JunOS 13.2S to 17.4S ? > Platform is MX80 > Or should I go step by step: i.e: > 13.2 -> 14.1 > 14.1 -> 15.1 > 15.1 -> 16.1 > 16.1 -> 17.1 > 17.1 -> 17.4 As others said, direct upgrade is somewhat unsupported an

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-08 Thread Niall Donaghy
[mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ola Thoresen Sent: 08 March 2019 09:41 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path Not that I am in any way authoritative... And I think Juniper has official guidelines, but these might be a bit conservative

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-08 Thread Ola Thoresen
Not that I am in any way authoritative... And I think  Juniper has official guidelines, but these might be a bit conservative. Depending on your config and feature sets. But I would at least suggest doing a few steps. 13.2 to 15.1 should be ok - skipping 14. 15.1 to 17.1 (and probably even 17

Re: [j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-08 Thread Rolf Hanßen
Hi, usually they say not more than 2 major releases in one step (i.e. 13 -> 15 -> 17). kind regards Rolf > Hi > Can I do direct upgrade of JunOS 13.2S to 17.4S ? > Platform is MX80 > Or should I go step by step: i.e: > 13.2 -> 14.1 > 14.1 -> 15.1 > 15.1 -> 16.1 > 16.1 -> 17.1 > 17.1 -> 17.4 > >

[j-nsp] Old JunOS upgrade path

2019-03-08 Thread Robert Hass
Hi Can I do direct upgrade of JunOS 13.2S to 17.4S ? Platform is MX80 Or should I go step by step: i.e: 13.2 -> 14.1 14.1 -> 15.1 15.1 -> 16.1 16.1 -> 17.1 17.1 -> 17.4 Rob ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/