> 4. Vendors don't often spin their own optics. Vendor C and J often
> use optics from Agilent, Finisar, etc, which are just re-branded
> (official label, different vendor ID programmed into the unit,
> etc.).
Agreed, I don't know any switch/router vendor who is also optic
manufacturer.
But I do
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012, Saku Ytti wrote:
Yet optic vendors even give you USB eeprommer boxes, where you can
on-the-fly code your optics to fit another vendors router/switches, where
they are seen as official optics.
Possible reasons the market exists
1. Legally required by some customer contracts
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:06:03AM +0200, Saku Ytti wrote:
> On (2012-02-23 16:53 -0500), Brandon Ross wrote:
>
> > I have no idea how they do it, but I can tell you for certain that
> > I've been able to source DWDM optics for my clients within a week
> > every single time. And yes, I'm referri
On (2012-02-23 16:53 -0500), Brandon Ross wrote:
> I have no idea how they do it, but I can tell you for certain that
> I've been able to source DWDM optics for my clients within a week
> every single time. And yes, I'm referring to specific colors.
Sure you can source them, by querying multipl
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012, Saku Ytti wrote:
Both companies I work with can deliver optics very quickly, often
next day and NEVER as long as 7-8 weeks and have VERY competitive
prices (and I don't mean competitive with the router manufacturer's
prices, I mean with other 3rd party optics).
This is not
On (2012-02-23 14:52 -0500), Brandon Ross wrote:
> I strongly disagree with your characterization. I work with a
> Both companies I work with can deliver optics very quickly, often
> next day and NEVER as long as 7-8 weeks and have VERY competitive
> prices (and I don't mean competitive with th
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012, Saku Ytti wrote:
Buying 3rd party can be done in many ways. One way is to use broken who
uses many sources to find what you need. They can offer very good price and
can rapidly deliver say any DWDM colour for any form-factor.
But they have no idea what they are delivering, i
On (2012-02-23 08:27 -0800), Bill Blackford wrote:
> ok, I shouldn't post something I'm clearly not prepared to provide
> empirical data for. This is what I've heard and I've certainly
> experienced results that support this notion.
I've heard the same, from my router/switch sales people. I'm sur
The best thing nowadays is to get an eeprom programmer and do all this
stuff yourself, this is what we do.
This way you are flexible with 3rd party optics. You just buy a bunch of
XFPs/SFP/SFP-P's with generic firmware and identifiers and programm the
rest yourself for whatever device you are runn
heh,
ok, I shouldn't post something I'm clearly not prepared to provide
empirical data for. This is what I've heard and I've certainly
experienced results that support this notion.
:)
-b
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Saku Ytti wrote:
> On (2012-02-23 06:38 -0800), Bill Blackford wrote:
>
>
On (2012-02-23 06:38 -0800), Bill Blackford wrote:
> Several manufacturers, like Finisar, MRV, etc. send the units that
> test well to Juniper, Cisco, etc. The ones that don't pass well, go to
> third-parties. Alos, if they are surplus and used, they could be
> dirty.
{{Citation needed}}
--
When you evaluate third-party optics, do a complete test of them.
http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-independent/junos/topics/reference/specifications/transceiver-m-mx-t-series-1000base-optical-specifications.html
http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-independent/junos/topics/r
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012, Robert Juric wrote:
>> They may have changed their policy, but I believe Juniper only
supports
>> Juniper optics in their equipment. Others will work, but if you want
full
>> support from Juniper I suggest you talk to your account team.
>
> They also don't support cables, but
Personally I've never had a single issue with Finisar, Fujitsu, or Opnext.
SFP, SFP+, or XFP.
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Robert Juric wrote:
> Thanks for the insights. Which 3rd party transceivers have you had the best
> luck with then?
>
> Robert
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:31 AM, Danie
Thanks for the insights. Which 3rd party transceivers have you had the best
luck with then?
Robert
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:31 AM, Daniel Roesen wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 02:27:40PM -0600, Robert Juric wrote:
> > Juniper also has only tested and verified their equipment with their
> > o
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 02:27:40PM -0600, Robert Juric wrote:
> Juniper also has only tested and verified their equipment with their
> optics. If you want to know without doubt that it will work, go
> straight to the source.
"Without doubt" will give you surprises. See PR/486951 for extended
fun w
There's not an expectation to support products they don't sell. Juniper
sells optics, and if you want support for them you should get them from
Juniper. Juniper also has only tested and verified their equipment with
their optics. If you want to know without doubt that it will work, go
straight to t
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012, Robert Juric wrote:
They may have changed their policy, but I believe Juniper only supports
Juniper optics in their equipment. Others will work, but if you want full
support from Juniper I suggest you talk to your account team.
They also don't support cables, but no one ex
Another good option for VC is the DAC/Twinax cables (0,5-5M) which you
can get from juniper for the price of a decent dinner for two.
//T
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Robert Juric wrote:
> They may have changed their policy, but I believe Juniper only supports
> Juniper optics in their equip
They may have changed their policy, but I believe Juniper only supports
Juniper optics in their equipment. Others will work, but if you want full
support from Juniper I suggest you talk to your account team.
Robert
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Mike Williams wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> While I'm th
Hey all,
While I'm thinking about 10Gb in EX3300s.
Does anyone have a reliable source for 10Gb SFP+s suitable for VC use in EXs?
US or Europe doesn't really matter, but US would be easier.
We should be in the market for 20 or so shortly, to connect 4 bunches of 3300s
into VCs.
Only 4 would be dr
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