Re: [j-nsp] Tricks for killing L2 loops in VPLS and STP "BPDU-less" situations?

2012-08-20 Thread Christopher E. Brown
One think I noticed when working with the BUM filter under VPLS instance is that there is no way to declare a per instance policer that I could find. Your can call the same filter/policer in multiple VPLS instances, but the named policer is a single global instance. So, if you call the same fil

Re: [j-nsp] Tricks for killing L2 loops in VPLS and STP "BPDU-less" situations?

2012-08-17 Thread Chris Kawchuk
Hi Clarke, We pass through BPDUs through VPLS the MX'es- but yes, miscreant users / switches will always be a problem. We do the following to every customer-facing VPLS instance, but only #3 would help you here: 1. Mac Limiting per VPLS Interface (100) (i.e per 'site') 2. Mac Limiting per VPLS

Re: [j-nsp] Tricks for killing L2 loops in VPLS and STP "BPDU-less" situations?

2012-08-17 Thread Ge Moua
What about TRILL? Not sure if Juniper has jumped on the TRILL bandwagon yet. -- Regards, Ge Moua Univ of Minn Alumnus -- On 08/17/2012 11:06 AM, Wayne Tucker wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Clarke Morledge wrote: We have had the unfortunate experience of having users plug in small m

Re: [j-nsp] Tricks for killing L2 loops in VPLS and STP "BPDU-less" situations?

2012-08-17 Thread Alexander Bochmann
Hi, ...on Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:08:53AM -0400, Clarke Morledge wrote: > switch accidentally into two of our EX switches. Traffic will loop > through the miscreant switch between the two EXs and without BPDUs > it just looks like MAC addresses keep moving between the real > source and the tw

Re: [j-nsp] Tricks for killing L2 loops in VPLS and STP "BPDU-less" situations?

2012-08-17 Thread Wayne Tucker
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Clarke Morledge wrote: > We have had the unfortunate experience of having users plug in small > mini-switches into our network that have the capability of filtering out > (by-default) BPDUs while allowing other traffic through. The nightmare > situation is when a

Re: [j-nsp] Tricks for killing L2 loops in VPLS and STP "BPDU-less" situations?

2012-08-17 Thread Jensen Tyler
- From: juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Clarke Morledge Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:09 AM To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [j-nsp] Tricks for killing L2 loops in VPLS and STP "BPDU-less" situations? We have

Re: [j-nsp] Tricks for killing L2 loops in VPLS and STP "BPDU-less" situations?

2012-08-17 Thread Clarke Morledge
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012, Jensen Tyler wrote: Quick google for "VPLS Multihoming" found me this: http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos9.6/information-products/topic-collections/feature-guide/vpls-multihoming-bgp-signaling-solutions.html Jensen Tyler Sr Engineering Manager Fiberutilities Group

[j-nsp] Tricks for killing L2 loops in VPLS and STP "BPDU-less" situations?

2012-08-17 Thread Clarke Morledge
We have had the unfortunate experience of having users plug in small mini-switches into our network that have the capability of filtering out (by-default) BPDUs while allowing other traffic through. The nightmare situation is when a user plugs in such a switch accidentally into two of our EX s