[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 Sergiu Bivol changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 Scarlett Moore changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 Rik Mills changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 --- Comment #13 from Nate Graham --- I think the simplest thing would be to surface apps that were installed manually from local packages in all the places where apps are normally seen. Search lists, browse lists, updates page, installed page, etc. And when I say "apps" I mean "packages that install .desktop files that don't have NoDisplay=true in them". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 --- Comment #12 from Michael Mikowski --- Another observation: On Kubuntu with PackageKit, one can't find always find an installed package. From the above example, searching for "Google Chrome" or "google-chrome-stable" in "Installed" shows 0 results. Interestingly, Firefox installed from the official Mozilla repo can be found under "Installed," but still doesn't show under "All Applications". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 --- Comment #11 from Michael Mikowski --- We (kfocus.org) consider this behavior to be a significant bug, as it frequently confuses users and results in support calls. It also makes Discover inappropriate for managing all GUI apps in one place. Users report they can't find a package they just installed or inspected in the updater mode, where it was nicely presented in detail. We had to rewrite our [software management guide](https://kfocus.org/wf/update.html) to move away from recommending Discover because of this. I attached images that hopefully help better illustrate this behavior (“Google Chrome viewed by clicking on the package during upgrade”; “While you can see chrome in updater and inspect it, it does not appear when searched”; “Searching for the package name also fails”). > Maybe we should force [appstream to create appstream components from local > desktop files], I think it’s still possible... This would be **great**! Perhaps you could suggest what needs to be done, and we can try to submit a PR? > ... although we’ll still have the same problem with packages that don’t > install a desktop file. We believe this is the desired behavior, since we don’t want non-expert people deleting libraries and breaking their systems. However, the updater displays all packages (including libraries), so completely hiding those would be confusing to experts and those managing CLI tools. Perhaps a suitable compromise might be to add a separate category (“All Packages” or similar) that only gets searched when the user explicitly picks it, and would have a red warning bar at the top stating “Experts only” or similar. As with the above, perhaps you could suggest what needs to be done, and we can try to submit a PR? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 --- Comment #10 from Michael Mikowski --- Created attachment 189218 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=189218&action=edit Searching for the package name also fails -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 --- Comment #9 from Michael Mikowski --- Created attachment 189217 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=189217&action=edit While you can see chrome in updater and inspect it, it does not appear when searched -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 Michael Mikowski changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] --- Comment #8 from Michael Mikowski --- Created attachment 189214 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=189214&action=edit Google Chrome viewed by clicking on the package during upgrade Google Chrome, and all packages actually, are visible and can be inspected from Discover when in the update mode, including the change log. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 soredake changed: What|Removed |Added CC|[email protected]| -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Component|discover|Installed page -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 ruruoli changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 --- Comment #7 from Nate Graham --- (In reply to Aleix Pol from comment #6) > That's right, newer appstream has changed to not create appstream components > from local desktop files. > > Maybe we should force it, I think it's still possible, although we'll still > have the same problem with packages that don't install a desktop file. That's probably fine, but for packages that do, it would be nice to display them like other apps. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 --- Comment #6 from Aleix Pol --- That's right, newer appstream has changed to not create appstream components from local desktop files. Maybe we should force it, I think it's still possible, although we'll still have the same problem with packages that don't install a desktop file. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 Patrick Silva changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] --- Comment #5 from Nate Graham --- *** Bug 416381 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||usability -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 409862] Installed page doesn't list app installed from local package until you search for it
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409862 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|0 |1 Summary|Discover doesn't list all |Installed page doesn't list |installed app |app installed from local ||package until you search ||for it Resolution|WAITINGFORINFO |--- Status|NEEDSINFO |CONFIRMED --- Comment #4 from Nate Graham --- Thanks, that's helpful. Looks like this is limited to apps installed from local packages. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
