[Discover] [Bug 507247] Notification about updates disappears after I close Discover's window
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507247 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Version First|master |6.4.80 Reported In|| CC||[email protected] Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|REPORTED|CONFIRMED --- Comment #8 from Nate Graham --- Please feel free to, thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 507247] Notification about updates disappears after I close Discover's window
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507247 Nate Graham changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||regression Severity|normal |minor -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 507247] Notification about updates disappears after I close Discover's window
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507247 Bug Janitor Service changed: What|Removed |Added Status|CONFIRMED |ASSIGNED --- Comment #9 from Bug Janitor Service --- A possibly relevant merge request was started @ https://invent.kde.org/plasma/discover/-/merge_requests/1155 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 507247] Notification about updates disappears after I close Discover's window
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507247 --- Comment #7 from Forest --- Assuming this report is about the status icon (not the notification) the bug was introduced here: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/discover/-/merge_requests/886 "notifier: Only show the tray notifier on next notification time" The author was apparently trying to address this issue: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=466693 Unfortunately, they misunderstood the differences between a status icon and a notification. (They may have misunderstood the original complaint as well.) They tried to resolve the bug by making the status icon behave like a notification. Of course, this broke the status icon, which some of us actually use and depend upon. That MR was a mistake. I can submit a new MR that will fix it. It's possible that some users might be annoyed by the status icon persistently showing the update status (which is its job). If such people exist, the correct solution for them would be to disable the status icon, and rely on the notifications to alert them to new updates. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 507247] Notification about updates disappears after I close Discover's window
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507247 Forest changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] --- Comment #6 from Forest --- Discover alerts the user to updates using two distinct mechanisms: Notifications, and Status Icons. Since you mentioned the systray, I think you're talking about this status icon, right? It looks like this: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KDE/breeze-icons/95b04bb64f3b/icons/status/22/update-low.svg I want to be clear about this distinction because people sometimes confuse the two mechanisms, or are unaware that they are two separate things with two separate purposes, so it's hard to discuss the subject without first making sure that everyone in the conversation understands this. Here's how they differ: Notification: - Represents an event (edge-triggered in signal processing terms) - Intrusive; wants immediate attention; interrupts the user (like an alarm) - Static; shows something that happened in the past (like a log entry) - Dismissed after reading (no longer available after that) - May automatically vanish or be hidden after a timeout Status Icon: - Represents a state (level-triggered in signal processing terms) - Quiet; lets the user look for it when convenient (like a wall clock) - Dynamic; shows whatever is happening right now (like temperature or progress) - Persistent (always available; visible whenever relevant, without clicking or tapping) - Sometimes serves as the only user interface for a tool or application Even developers sometimes make the mistake of conflating these two concepts, and I think that is what has caused the bug described here. (See my next comment.) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 507247] Notification about updates disappears after I close Discover's window
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507247 --- Comment #5 from Harald Sitter --- Something like this is probably needed in DiscoverNotifier.cpp QDBusConnection::sessionBus().connect(QString(), RefreshNotifierDBus::path, RefreshNotifierDBus::interface, RefreshNotifierDBus::notifyNotifier, this, SLOT(showUpdatesNotification())); -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 507247] Notification about updates disappears after I close Discover's window
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507247 --- Comment #4 from Harald Sitter --- Oh indeed. The way it works is that RefreshNotifierDBus issues a broadcast and then DiscoverNotifier runs recheckSystemUpdateNeeded(). The trouble possibly is that recheckSystemUpdateNeeded doesn't actually check notifications? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 507247] Notification about updates disappears after I close Discover's window
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507247 --- Comment #3 from Aleix Pol --- Shouldn't RefreshNotifierDBus::notify do that? I can't really see how it's supposed to work. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 507247] Notification about updates disappears after I close Discover's window
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507247 Harald Sitter changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] --- Comment #2 from Harald Sitter --- Maybe we should restore the status notifier after discover closes. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
[Discover] [Bug 507247] Notification about updates disappears after I close Discover's window
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507247 Piotr Mierzwinski changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] --- Comment #1 from Piotr Mierzwinski --- [UPDATE] Notifier icon (like cloud) appeared after around 1h. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
