Re: "soft" vs "hard" real-time?

2008-07-15 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 08:52 +0200, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote: > 2008/7/14 Bernd Petrovitsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 20:47 +0200, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote: > >> 2008/7/14 Robert P. J. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > > >> > is there a good online explanation of the differe

Re: "soft" vs "hard" real-time?

2008-07-15 Thread Roberto A. Foglietta
2008/7/14 Bernd Petrovitsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 20:47 +0200, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote: >> 2008/7/14 Robert P. J. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > >> > is there a good online explanation of the difference WRT linux? >> > thanks. >> >> Sorry for the attachment but an image is

Re: "soft" vs "hard" real-time?

2008-07-14 Thread Henrik Austad
On Monday 14 July 2008 20:36:57 andi wrote: > Hi! > > It think first you have to define what real-time is. There are so many > definitions around, but the one I prefer is the one given in the book > "Real-Time Systems - Design Principles for Distributed Applications" by > Hermann Kopetz: > > "A rea

Re: "soft" vs "hard" real-time?

2008-07-14 Thread Henrik Austad
On Monday 14 July 2008 16:00:12 Robert P. J. Day wrote: > is there a good online explanation of the difference WRT linux? have you seen http://rt.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page ? not sure if that's what you want, but it's a good starting-point for anything rt-related in the linux-kernel :

Re: "soft" vs "hard" real-time?

2008-07-14 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 16:48 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > > > As for the Linux kernel: > > - soft realtime: Posix-RT-Priorities is probably good enough. > > - hard real-time: you need (at least) RTAI or RTLinux. > > probably a stupid question, bu

Re: "soft" vs "hard" real-time?

2008-07-14 Thread andi
> probably a stupid question, but where does ADEOS fit into this > picture? > I don't know adeos that good, but afaik it is a hardware abstraction layer, which allows you to run a couple of domains, which can be given priorities. so you can for example run a Linux domain with a low priority and

Re: "soft" vs "hard" real-time?

2008-07-14 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > As for the Linux kernel: > - soft realtime: Posix-RT-Priorities is probably good enough. > - hard real-time: you need (at least) RTAI or RTLinux. probably a stupid question, but where does ADEOS fit into this picture? rday -- =

Re: "soft" vs "hard" real-time?

2008-07-14 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 20:47 +0200, Roberto A. Foglietta wrote: > 2008/7/14 Robert P. J. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > is there a good online explanation of the difference WRT linux? > > thanks. > > Sorry for the attachment but an image is better than many words (sometime)! > :-) > > > hwrt:

Re: "soft" vs "hard" real-time?

2008-07-14 Thread Roberto A. Foglietta
2008/7/14 Robert P. J. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > is there a good online explanation of the difference WRT linux? > thanks. > Sorry for the attachment but an image is better than many words (sometime)! :-) hwrt: missing the deadline means crashing the system swrt: missing the deadline means

Re: "soft" vs "hard" real-time?

2008-07-14 Thread andi
Hi! It think first you have to define what real-time is. There are so many definitions around, but the one I prefer is the one given in the book "Real-Time Systems - Design Principles for Distributed Applications" by Hermann Kopetz: "A real-time computer system is a computer system in which the c

Re: "soft" vs "hard" real-time?

2008-07-14 Thread Mrunal Gawade
google for "scott brandt" and take a look at his webpage and the papers he has written. He works in read time systems research from University of California at Santa Cruz. -Mrunal On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Robert P. J. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Henrik Austad

Re: "soft" vs "hard" real-time?

2008-07-14 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Henrik Austad wrote: > On Monday 14 July 2008 16:00:12 Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > is there a good online explanation of the difference WRT linux? > > have you seen http://rt.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page ? yes, i've been perusing that for the last hour or so. rday -

"soft" vs "hard" real-time?

2008-07-14 Thread Robert P. J. Day
is there a good online explanation of the difference WRT linux? thanks. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca